Finally!
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@randahl Which will arrive (if nothing unforeseen happens) in 2-3 years. Ask the Estonians ...
Most of the previous generation of my family worked for the military and I have a lot of friends in shipbuilding and R&D. I get a lot of insight on the current state.
Believe me, we would not be a threat even to Luxembourg even if we tried 🙂.
@masek from what I hear, the Ukrainians are very pleased with the German hardware, including the various air defence systems.
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@RustyFreewheel @randahl that probably will be the result of the negotiations.. 😉
You just had to read between the line's.
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@masek from what I hear, the Ukrainians are very pleased with the German hardware, including the various air defence systems.
@randahl Hardware: can do 🙂. It is a pity that we got rid of the cold war stocks. We once had 3.000 MBTs. That stock could have Ukraine supplied for years.
I refer more to the ability to deploy troops and keep them in the field.
The tank brigade in Lithuania (not Estonia, sorry!) was agreed upon in 2022. The 45th tank brigade is currently expected to be ready in 2027.
P.S. I served in 1985 in 6th Tank Grenadiers division which was paired with the danish Jutland division. Back at that time, German soldiers in Denmark still had to expect to be chased away by Danish farmers during exercises.
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@RustyFreewheel @vosje62 @randahl
I suspect the main purpose of this deployment is to serve as a tripwire force.
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Finally!
Danish Arctic Command announces that two C-130 Hercules planes have landed in the municipalities of Nuuk, and Kangerlussuaq in Greenland with international forces in preparation for large international "exercises".
The population of Greenland has been told to expect a "considerable military presence" consisting of international Air, Navy, Army, and Special Forces.
From what I hear, four NATO countries are involved in today's operation, including our Norwegians friends.
🇬🇱🇩🇰🇳🇴🇬🇧🇩🇪🇫🇷🇪🇺
@randahl TFW when Norway takes this opportunity to assert claim to Greenland

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@randahl Hardware: can do 🙂. It is a pity that we got rid of the cold war stocks. We once had 3.000 MBTs. That stock could have Ukraine supplied for years.
I refer more to the ability to deploy troops and keep them in the field.
The tank brigade in Lithuania (not Estonia, sorry!) was agreed upon in 2022. The 45th tank brigade is currently expected to be ready in 2027.
P.S. I served in 1985 in 6th Tank Grenadiers division which was paired with the danish Jutland division. Back at that time, German soldiers in Denmark still had to expect to be chased away by Danish farmers during exercises.
@masek yes, the historical grudge runs pretty deep with the older generations. Most Danes under 50 see Germans as friends.
Please understand that many Danes have relatives who died in the resistance movement. That wound is difficult to heal.
I personally love the German people because I have so much contact with German friends and the country overall. But a farmer on the west coast who never travels outside the country… that takes a generational change.
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@masek yes, the historical grudge runs pretty deep with the older generations. Most Danes under 50 see Germans as friends.
Please understand that many Danes have relatives who died in the resistance movement. That wound is difficult to heal.
I personally love the German people because I have so much contact with German friends and the country overall. But a farmer on the west coast who never travels outside the country… that takes a generational change.
@randahl We received training for it. The ground rule were:
- Never escalate, never threaten
- When in doubt, retreat
- Get some danish comrade to mediate
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Finally!
Danish Arctic Command announces that two C-130 Hercules planes have landed in the municipalities of Nuuk, and Kangerlussuaq in Greenland with international forces in preparation for large international "exercises".
The population of Greenland has been told to expect a "considerable military presence" consisting of international Air, Navy, Army, and Special Forces.
From what I hear, four NATO countries are involved in today's operation, including our Norwegians friends.
🇬🇱🇩🇰🇳🇴🇬🇧🇩🇪🇫🇷🇪🇺
@randahl I don't know if it's good or bad news.
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@masek yes, the historical grudge runs pretty deep with the older generations. Most Danes under 50 see Germans as friends.
Please understand that many Danes have relatives who died in the resistance movement. That wound is difficult to heal.
I personally love the German people because I have so much contact with German friends and the country overall. But a farmer on the west coast who never travels outside the country… that takes a generational change.
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@masek yes, the historical grudge runs pretty deep with the older generations. Most Danes under 50 see Germans as friends.
Please understand that many Danes have relatives who died in the resistance movement. That wound is difficult to heal.
I personally love the German people because I have so much contact with German friends and the country overall. But a farmer on the west coast who never travels outside the country… that takes a generational change.
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@tdp_org has France confirmed their participation today?
@randahl @tdp_org This is weird. According to military bloggers from daily "Ouest-France", fifteen or so troops from the 27th Mountain Infantry Brigade (27ème BIM) have arrived in Nuuk. They "will prepare for the deployment of a larger French contingent that could be deployed in Greenland in the near future." Said contingent will participate in the joint exercises with allied countries: Denmark, Germany, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, the UK and possibly Canada (huh?). https://lignesdedefense.ouest-france.fr/65148-2
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@RustyFreewheel
When greenland is attacked, those token soldiers as you call them, will notify someone, then the whole deal with soldiers will get to greenland quickly.
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@randahl Germany is only sending a 13-people advance party 🙂 . How embarrassing ....
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Finally!
Danish Arctic Command announces that two C-130 Hercules planes have landed in the municipalities of Nuuk, and Kangerlussuaq in Greenland with international forces in preparation for large international "exercises".
The population of Greenland has been told to expect a "considerable military presence" consisting of international Air, Navy, Army, and Special Forces.
From what I hear, four NATO countries are involved in today's operation, including our Norwegians friends.
🇬🇱🇩🇰🇳🇴🇬🇧🇩🇪🇫🇷🇪🇺
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@randahl Finally. It's a great place for troop training anyway in case the EU will ever have to directly face Russia. Get used to the long icy winters now.
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@randahl Germany is only sending a 13-people advance party 🙂 . How embarrassing ....
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Finally!
Danish Arctic Command announces that two C-130 Hercules planes have landed in the municipalities of Nuuk, and Kangerlussuaq in Greenland with international forces in preparation for large international "exercises".
The population of Greenland has been told to expect a "considerable military presence" consisting of international Air, Navy, Army, and Special Forces.
From what I hear, four NATO countries are involved in today's operation, including our Norwegians friends.
🇬🇱🇩🇰🇳🇴🇬🇧🇩🇪🇫🇷🇪🇺
"¡Por fin!
El Comando Ártico danés anuncia que dos aviones C-130 Hércules han aterrizado en los municipios de Nuuk y Kangerlussuaq, en Groenlandia, con fuerzas internacionales en preparación para unas importantes "maniobras" internacionales.
Se ha informado a la población de Groenlandia que espere una "considerable presencia militar" compuesta por fuerzas aéreas, navales, terrestres y de operaciones especiales de varios países.
Según tengo entendido, cuatro países de la OTAN participan en la operación de hoy, incluidos nuestros amigos noruegos.
🇬🇱🇩🇰🇳🇴🇬🇧🇩🇪🇫🇷🇪🇺"
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A prudent move since (as Trump pointed out) the threat to Greenland from countries like Russia and China is so serious that it would warrant the US taking ownership.
One wonders why Denmark and NATO were not aware of this threat before. It's clearly necessary to defend it from those countries.
(and any other that don't belong and could attempt to get a foothold there)
Russia struggles to supply it's troops 200km from it's borders.
What makes you think they could supply an invasion force 2,000km away with no friendly airspace and contested sea routes whilst the US would have NATO allies providing airspace, sea routes and Arctic warfare forces.
The USA is far more likely to lose it's base in Greenland because of the actions of Trump rather than the actions of Putin or Xi
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@somlu1968 Dies sind Flaggen von Ländern, von denen ich annehme, dass sie an der Operation teilnehmen werden. Noch ist nichts bestätigt.
@randahl @somlu1968 "von denen ich annehme"... "nichts bestätigt"..
Joah, kann man aber erstmal so raushauen. Just for the drama oder so.. -
@randahl Why explain the obvious and not just enjoy the subtle irony 🙄
@sibrosan @randahl given the stupidity of MAGA supporter or bots, I'm very suspicious nowadays. Really couldn't catch the irony at all.
I'm glad it was though.But in the end, there are MASSIVE interest for Russia in the US invading Greenland.
Breaking or diverting energy/resource from NATO, or weakening them, and reinforce the west part so they can invade the east through Ukraine with less help.We're surrounded by psychopathic killer idiots with atomic powers. What a sad state.
The US senate/congress should impeach that crazy lunatic now, and if not, the military should protect the constitution and force him and his goon out of power.
The World shouldn't have to deal with this mess, it is very messy already.