@Edent what's so bad about <div> ... or: Why do you want to avoid them?

[richardloxley@mastodon.richardloxley.com]

@Edent I was so hoping for this…

[owenblacker@dataare.cool]

@Edent warning: it might freak out CJ Cregg

[ben@bluetoot.hardill.me.uk]

@Edent That's the wedding present sorted (Cousin living and getting married in NZ in the New Year)

[edent@mastodon.social]

@ben awesome! We're heading to NZ this Xmas - such a lovely part of the world.

[abeorch@friendica.ginestes.es]

@Edent They could call it ... Hydro power..

[smyru@social.vivaldi.net]

@Edent Put a turbine into gutter drainpipe?

[briansmith950@mas.to]

@Edent
Well, there are downpipe generators...
But they are unlikely to produce enough to be viable, even in the UK.

And also this
But I don't think it has made it out of the lab yet.
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/acscentsci.4c02110
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYm49Kd4Gy8

[ketumbra@infosec.exchange]

@Edent there are panels that can also harvest energy from rain drops hitting them.
Quick Google leads me to the term TENG for this.

[jezhiggins@mastodon.me.uk]

@Edent I've got a stream running past the house, and sometimes I just stand and watch the Watts I could be capturing flow past.

[edent@mastodon.social]

@jezhiggins put that river to work!

[jezhiggins@mastodon.me.uk]

@Edent It's love to!

(I have looked into it, but it's nowhere near as straightforward as solar+batteries)

[pikesley@mastodon.me.uk]

@jezhiggins @Edent

Seems like the sort of thing you could just knock up in a weekend

https://youtu.be/KEsrAmM07fs?si=_aThb0ZFVb0UC5sZ

/s

[jezhiggins@mastodon.me.uk]

@pikesley Yes, but also no. I suspect my neighbour down the hill could run one of these - I mean he's literally lives on the old mill. I could get 2 or 3m head, but I'd need to run pipes, and probably take out some trees to do it 😕

[mattround@crispsandwi.ch]

@Edent Hope I've done it justice & you enjoy the rest!

[bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr]

@Edent I don't know about "open source" (whatever that means) but for free software, the issue is not so important since power is distributed (that's one of the freedoms that come with free software). Any team/person can take the lead.

[edent@mastodon.social]

@bortzmeyer that is demonstrably untrue.

Your free software can shatter into a thousand forks - but we all know that just leads to confusion.

If only one person controls the website / signing keys / trademark / whatever, then the project is brittle. And far too many F/OSS projects have a single point of failure.

[emily_s@mastodon.me.uk]

@Edent this is remarkable to the point I struggle to think of another example of doing it well that is half as big.

[fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk]

@emily_s @Edent Python?

[bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr]

@Edent Controlling the brand is some power but let's not exaggerate it. MariaDB had no problem replacing MySQL, even if the brand was strong.

Also, claiming that free software is controlled by an organisation and that you cannot do anything without this organisation. Is dangerous. Why moving away from proprietary software, in that case?

[edent@mastodon.social]

@bortzmeyer

These resources suggest otherwise.

https://6sense.com/tech/relational-databases/mysql-vs-mariadb
https://db-engines.com/en/ranking

Humans organise. Like ants, it is our super-power. I'm arguing that *better* organisations are beneficial.

I've yet to see anarchy flourish in reality.