Hey men, a tip:In a professional setting, NEVER refer to a group of people "ladies".

[jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange]

Hey men, a tip:
In a professional setting, NEVER refer to a group of people "ladies". Even if they're all women. Ladies to many people has a diminutive connotation of talking down to women. It makes you sound rude and unprofessional even more so than calling a group of women "guys".

Just give a gender neutral "you all" or "everyone" or whatever else.

[viss@mastodon.social]

@JessTheUnstill i have found 'hey everyone' or 'hey folks' to work adequately in those settings, and it hasnt failed me yet

[hobbynutte69@troet.cafe]

@JessTheUnstill Thank you, sweetheart!

[xavier@infosec.exchange]

@JessTheUnstill Heard! If I ever hear a man say, "Hey Ladies" I always think of Beastie Boys. Also not a professional look ;)

[jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange]

It's one of those: women might call a group of women "ladies". I still don't prefer it, but at least it doesn't carry the same connotations as a man calling a group of women ladies.

[mpark@mathstodon.xyz]

@JessTheUnstill "Folks," is my go to. Most of the time it works great, but occasionally folks not used to a slightly-Southern American accent will miss-hear it exactly the way you wouldn't want them to.

[jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange]

@hobbynutte69

[edsanders2@mstdn.social]

@JessTheUnstill

Thanks for letting me know.

Until now, I’ve always thought of it as a more polite way to refer to a group, but when I think about it, I can recall instances — in both real and fictional settings — where a man has used the term to refer to a group of women (or men), and it’s clearly being done to assert dominance.

[emily_rugburn@lgbtqia.space]

@JessTheUnstill @artemis good god does this drive me mad. the worst was my boss, who is a woman, who is like 10 years older than me, calling us a bunch of "girls". im fucking 47 years old goddamn it

[jackmexa4@mastodon.social]

@JessTheUnstill

But isn’t the real problem considering “ladies”diminishing somehow?

Isn’t playing by those rules perpetuating a stupid stereotype?

[jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange]

@JackMexa4 Then it's up to women to reclaim the term. Not for men. It's the same as any other reclaimed term like "queer". It's been slung as a slur against me and my people for decades, and now I and many others proudly wear it as our identity. But that wasn't done by cishets. That was done by queers. If women want to reclaim ladies, we could, but thus far, we haven't.