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@sturmsucht Bevor ich mir aktuell extra Hardware für ein Custom ROM zulege, würde ich lieber erst abwarten, ob Google seine Drohung wegen Android umsetzt. Falls ja, werden die Custom ROMs ganz schnell verwundbar sein, weil sie keine aktuellen Patches mehr bekommen.
Es ist ja nicht so, dass Motorola günstige Geräte verkauft. -
@sturmsucht Bevor ich mir aktuell extra Hardware für ein Custom ROM zulege, würde ich lieber erst abwarten, ob Google seine Drohung wegen Android umsetzt. Falls ja, werden die Custom ROMs ganz schnell verwundbar sein, weil sie keine aktuellen Patches mehr bekommen.
Es ist ja nicht so, dass Motorola günstige Geräte verkauft. -
@sturmsucht Ich bin mir gerade nicht sicher, ob das eine gute Nachricht ist oder nicht. Konkret frage ich mich, ob das Motorola tatsächlich eine Verbesserung darstellt oder eher einen Kompromiss in Sachen Sicherheit darstellt.
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@sturmsucht Bevor ich mir aktuell extra Hardware für ein Custom ROM zulege, würde ich lieber erst abwarten, ob Google seine Drohung wegen Android umsetzt. Falls ja, werden die Custom ROMs ganz schnell verwundbar sein, weil sie keine aktuellen Patches mehr bekommen.
Es ist ja nicht so, dass Motorola günstige Geräte verkauft.@m1rk0 @sturmsucht Die Frage ist, was dann die Alternative wäre? Nüchtern betrachtet könnte man dann nur noch ein Apple-Gerät einsetzen. Zumindest wenn man ansatzweise Sicherheit und Privatsphäre möchte (und konsequent keine Apple-Dienste nutzt). Traurig….
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@sturmsucht Ich bin mir gerade nicht sicher, ob das eine gute Nachricht ist oder nicht. Konkret frage ich mich, ob das Motorola tatsächlich eine Verbesserung darstellt oder eher einen Kompromiss in Sachen Sicherheit darstellt.
@NebulaTide denke nicht, dass GrapheneOS hier einen Abstrich in Sachen Sicherheit macht.
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@m1rk0 @sturmsucht Die Frage ist, was dann die Alternative wäre? Nüchtern betrachtet könnte man dann nur noch ein Apple-Gerät einsetzen. Zumindest wenn man ansatzweise Sicherheit und Privatsphäre möchte (und konsequent keine Apple-Dienste nutzt). Traurig….
@NebulaTide @sturmsucht Absolut. Eine Frage, die ich mir schon länger stelle. Ohne Open-source Android Basis bleiben aktuell nur Linux/BSD und Apple übrig.
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@sturmsucht thank you for sharing this Chris! I had been wondering who their secret partner was. Although a little bit disappointed it's an American company that has been sold to a Chinese company (Lenovo) - I just checked 😐
looking forward to the day they have a Canadian or European partner
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@sturmsucht Hier die Hintergründe:
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@sturmsucht thank you for sharing this Chris! I had been wondering who their secret partner was. Although a little bit disappointed it's an American company that has been sold to a Chinese company (Lenovo) - I just checked 😐
looking forward to the day they have a Canadian or European partner
@_elena I really wish one day we have the Fairphone running GrapheneOS.
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@sturmsucht thank you for sharing this Chris! I had been wondering who their secret partner was. Although a little bit disappointed it's an American company that has been sold to a Chinese company (Lenovo) - I just checked 😐
looking forward to the day they have a Canadian or European partner
@_elena @sturmsucht maybe you should read all the reactions of the official graphenos account here on Mastodon about other companies and FOSS projects. I do not think they want a European partner at all 😬😅
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@sturmsucht Hier die Hintergründe:
@m1rk0 ich kenne die Hintergründe. Ich hab auch nur gerepostet, dass Motorola der lange geheimgehaltene Partner für GrapheneOS ist.
Natürlich kaufe ich jetzt nicht direkt ein Motorola solange mein Pixel noch geht. Mal gucken auf welchen Geräten es dann tatsächlich läuft und wann. Das ist ja noch nirgends veröffentlicht.
Versteh nur nicht warum alle erst maulen, weils nur auf Google läuft und jetzt weil es auch noch auf Motorola läuft. Hätte auch lieber ein Fairphone mit GrapheneOS.
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@_elena @sturmsucht maybe you should read all the reactions of the official graphenos account here on Mastodon about other companies and FOSS projects. I do not think they want a European partner at all 😬😅
Proof?
Or are you just referring to the regular "my os is better than your os" flamewar?
That has nothing to do with them avoiding EU partners. Don't spread false news.
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@_elena I really wish one day we have the Fairphone running GrapheneOS.
#eOS and #Murena are a good start for #deGoogled #Fairphone
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#eOS and #Murena are a good start for #deGoogled #Fairphone
@michaelmarek @_elena yes, and less safe than GrapheneOS. Still a good start if you have a by GrapheneOS unsupported devices. iodeOS is also a good alternative and a bit better in degoogling. But let's not start this flamewar
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Proof?
Or are you just referring to the regular "my os is better than your os" flamewar?
That has nothing to do with them avoiding EU partners. Don't spread false news.
@sturmsucht @_elena Proof? Read their reactions on Mastodon. For example https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116149770473102451
This had nothing todo with a kind of war, but it has todo with respect for other FOSS projects. The way they communicate can be called very strange.
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@sturmsucht @_elena Proof? Read their reactions on Mastodon. For example https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116149770473102451
This had nothing todo with a kind of war, but it has todo with respect for other FOSS projects. The way they communicate can be called very strange.
Still no proof of GrapheneOS avoiding EU vendors.
Fairphone does a remarkable job when it comes to being repairable and fair trade. But not so much with security (e.g. fast patch delivery or just by enabling kernel build-in security features).
Every discussion about GrapheneOS is heated to the point of death threads. They talk shit, the others talk shit.
I also wish they would respect each other, but that is not a proof that GrapheneOS avoids EU vendors.
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Still no proof of GrapheneOS avoiding EU vendors.
Fairphone does a remarkable job when it comes to being repairable and fair trade. But not so much with security (e.g. fast patch delivery or just by enabling kernel build-in security features).
Every discussion about GrapheneOS is heated to the point of death threads. They talk shit, the others talk shit.
I also wish they would respect each other, but that is not a proof that GrapheneOS avoids EU vendors.
@sturmsucht @richarddebruin sorry I’m not getting involved in the discussion giving how defensive / aggressive each project can get*.
My stance (via this GIF). I will happily continue using GrapheneOS on my Pixel 9 for now 🙈
Edit: I already got in trouble once attempting to defend GrapheneOS and their social media manager thought I was “spreading misinformation” about them!!! So I won’t ever say anything public about them anymore, just use the OS
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@sturmsucht @richarddebruin sorry I’m not getting involved in the discussion giving how defensive / aggressive each project can get*.
My stance (via this GIF). I will happily continue using GrapheneOS on my Pixel 9 for now 🙈
Edit: I already got in trouble once attempting to defend GrapheneOS and their social media manager thought I was “spreading misinformation” about them!!! So I won’t ever say anything public about them anymore, just use the OS
@_elena @sturmsucht and I also happily using it on my Pixel 8 pro 🤗. I only mention that way they communicate here on Mastodon is strange. Have a nice day everyone 🌞
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@_elena @sturmsucht and I also happily using it on my Pixel 8 pro 🤗. I only mention that way they communicate here on Mastodon is strange. Have a nice day everyone 🌞
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@sturmsucht @richarddebruin sorry I’m not getting involved in the discussion giving how defensive / aggressive each project can get*.
My stance (via this GIF). I will happily continue using GrapheneOS on my Pixel 9 for now 🙈
Edit: I already got in trouble once attempting to defend GrapheneOS and their social media manager thought I was “spreading misinformation” about them!!! So I won’t ever say anything public about them anymore, just use the OS
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