Age verification is spreading like cancer.
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Age verification is spreading like cancer.
First they came for adults site and social media; now they are already discussing about putting VPNs and app stores behind #AgeVerfication 🇬🇧🇦🇺
What’s sold as “online safety” means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.
Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.
We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!
👉 More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity
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Age verification is spreading like cancer.
First they came for adults site and social media; now they are already discussing about putting VPNs and app stores behind #AgeVerfication 🇬🇧🇦🇺
What’s sold as “online safety” means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.
Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.
We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!
👉 More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity
Sadly, lots of people online think this is for the good and important to protect children...
Like if the fact that some parents doesn't want to take care of their children is enough to force everyone to be monitored...
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Age verification is spreading like cancer.
First they came for adults site and social media; now they are already discussing about putting VPNs and app stores behind #AgeVerfication 🇬🇧🇦🇺
What’s sold as “online safety” means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.
Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.
We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!
👉 More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity
@Tutanota we are ready to take hands back on old nokias xD
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Age verification is spreading like cancer.
First they came for adults site and social media; now they are already discussing about putting VPNs and app stores behind #AgeVerfication 🇬🇧🇦🇺
What’s sold as “online safety” means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.
Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.
We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!
👉 More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity
@Tutanota, wow! I’ll instantly delete anything requesting my ID. If you need my verification, please do it through government apps and don’t share my ID with anyone. Something where only a flag like “adult: yes/no” will be exchanged with third parties. But even with something like that I'm against it 100%
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Age verification is spreading like cancer.
First they came for adults site and social media; now they are already discussing about putting VPNs and app stores behind #AgeVerfication 🇬🇧🇦🇺
What’s sold as “online safety” means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.
Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.
We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!
👉 More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity
@Tutanota Hurrah!! Excellent news!! I don’t want young men inducted into pornography and sexual abuse of minors! And I don't want young women inducted into the belief that that kind of abuse is normal! I would like to see high costs for ALL pornography, and the obligation to REGISTER to allow Authorities to verify whether a registered user is guilty of sexual criminal behaviour and abuse!
Maybe YOU like it, and maybe YOU like little children being targeted, but most of us do NOT! -
@Tutanota Hurrah!! Excellent news!! I don’t want young men inducted into pornography and sexual abuse of minors! And I don't want young women inducted into the belief that that kind of abuse is normal! I would like to see high costs for ALL pornography, and the obligation to REGISTER to allow Authorities to verify whether a registered user is guilty of sexual criminal behaviour and abuse!
Maybe YOU like it, and maybe YOU like little children being targeted, but most of us do NOT!@ToniMassari@mastodon.social @Tutanota@mastodon.social the trick is exactly that there are indeed good reasons for regulating the exposition of the internet to children and minors, which btw doesn’t just apply to porn. The bad news is that age verification for porn is a dangerous back door for introducing age verification for literally everything, which also means having true ID exposed. That scenario, in a time in which dictatorships and fascism are raising, is extremely dangerous for everyone
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@Tutanota Hurrah!! Excellent news!! I don’t want young men inducted into pornography and sexual abuse of minors! And I don't want young women inducted into the belief that that kind of abuse is normal! I would like to see high costs for ALL pornography, and the obligation to REGISTER to allow Authorities to verify whether a registered user is guilty of sexual criminal behaviour and abuse!
Maybe YOU like it, and maybe YOU like little children being targeted, but most of us do NOT!@ToniMassari @Tutanota next thing you know is social media getting ID-walled for "protecting the children" and the moment you post a dissident opinion someone knocks on your door...
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Age verification is spreading like cancer.
First they came for adults site and social media; now they are already discussing about putting VPNs and app stores behind #AgeVerfication 🇬🇧🇦🇺
What’s sold as “online safety” means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.
Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.
We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!
👉 More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity
@Tutanota@mastodon.social
Folks... I don't know who was responsible for the Martin Niemöller allegory.
That's really inappropriate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_They_Came -
@ToniMassari @Tutanota next thing you know is social media getting ID-walled for "protecting the children" and the moment you post a dissident opinion someone knocks on your door...
@roohafzaluvr @ToniMassari @Tutanota I mean, it's not like there's a modern day Gestapo disappearing people as they wish, is it?
https://www.404media.co/elite-the-palantir-app-ice-uses-to-find-neighborhoods-to-raid/ -
@roohafzaluvr @ToniMassari @Tutanota I mean, it's not like there's a modern day Gestapo disappearing people as they wish, is it?
https://www.404media.co/elite-the-palantir-app-ice-uses-to-find-neighborhoods-to-raid/@kikebenlloch @ToniMassari @Tutanota its sickening. imagine a bunch of brainless, big men with guns dragging you out of your home for nothing. there's absolutely nothing we can do about it.
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@kikebenlloch @ToniMassari @Tutanota its sickening. imagine a bunch of brainless, big men with guns dragging you out of your home for nothing. there's absolutely nothing we can do about it.
@roohafzaluvr @ToniMassari @Tutanota Exactly, and those thugs and the fascists who pay them are going to use absolutely every tool they can reach to keep smashing whomever they feel like, be it inmigrants, activists, journalists, lgtbi community, etc. That's why age verification is a trap.
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@Tutanota Hurrah!! Excellent news!! I don’t want young men inducted into pornography and sexual abuse of minors! And I don't want young women inducted into the belief that that kind of abuse is normal! I would like to see high costs for ALL pornography, and the obligation to REGISTER to allow Authorities to verify whether a registered user is guilty of sexual criminal behaviour and abuse!
Maybe YOU like it, and maybe YOU like little children being targeted, but most of us do NOT!@ToniMassari @Tutanota Monitoring the internet access of minors can be easily achieved by enabling parents to do so eg via government backed online tutorials and mandatory features like no-data SIM cards and modem parental controls for Internet service providers.
Asking for an ID to be shared every time someone visits an adult website is both ineffective and overly controlling. Not to mention UK politicians have already admitted it's also about controlling adults, not just children.
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Sadly, lots of people online think this is for the good and important to protect children...
Like if the fact that some parents doesn't want to take care of their children is enough to force everyone to be monitored...
@superboom12s @Tutanota Until Elon Musk with hishateful, lying, kiddy-porn-site isn't banned I will never believe that it is for "the protection of our children". Because protection of children means that social media would be regulated and providers would be held accountable for the damage they do by spreading lies, misinformation, and hate.
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@Tutanota@mastodon.social
Folks... I don't know who was responsible for the Martin Niemöller allegory.
That's really inappropriate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_They_Came -
@jathanasiou@mastodon.social
The issue is that Niemöller's poem specifically addresses the Holocaust and Nazi persecution - the systematic murder of millions. Using it for age verification, no matter how concerning those policies are, trivializes the Shoah.
Age verification absolutely raises serious privacy and surveillance concerns that deserve strong opposition. But we can make that case without invoking genocide. The slippery slope to authoritarianism exists, but comparing a digital rights issue to the Holocaust weakens both arguments.
There might be plenty of other powerful ways to criticize age verification laws.
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@jathanasiou@mastodon.social
The issue is that Niemöller's poem specifically addresses the Holocaust and Nazi persecution - the systematic murder of millions. Using it for age verification, no matter how concerning those policies are, trivializes the Shoah.
Age verification absolutely raises serious privacy and surveillance concerns that deserve strong opposition. But we can make that case without invoking genocide. The slippery slope to authoritarianism exists, but comparing a digital rights issue to the Holocaust weakens both arguments.
There might be plenty of other powerful ways to criticize age verification laws.
@Tutanota@mastodon.socialI appreciate the well-put reply but I have to say I humbly and respectfully disagree with the "trivializing of genocide" angle.
Didn't genocide and fascism start with control? ID Checks and marks on people's arms, and monitoring and "removal" of opinions different to the state's? First peacefully, with some half-reasonable excuse "immigrants/<others> threaten our quality-of-life" and then violent suppression.
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@quillmatiq I think it takes some extreme individualism, which definitely isn't universal, to say that a person is more important than their city, religion, or country.
(I think this is an extreme over-extension of my point, though. Even if emergent entities arise from Internet communications networks in the same way they did from pre-Internet communications networks, we're not at a point (yet?) where people are willing to put the good of their Subreddit above their own needs.)
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@quillmatiq yeah, it's a bit of rug pull to zoom out on other pre-Internet networks, like telephones, writing, and local newspapers.
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I appreciate the well-put reply but I have to say I humbly and respectfully disagree with the "trivializing of genocide" angle.
Didn't genocide and fascism start with control? ID Checks and marks on people's arms, and monitoring and "removal" of opinions different to the state's? First peacefully, with some half-reasonable excuse "immigrants/<others> threaten our quality-of-life" and then violent suppression.
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@quillmatiq emergent phenomena arise from networks of communicating, connected humans. Like cultures, religions, political movements, nation states. One term I've seen is intersubjectivity, the things that only exist between people:
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@jn except fanfic is pretty legit tho
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