@bryan I watched the first couple seasons of Survivor, but it was so contrived and game show like, it didn't have enduring appeal for me. Alone feels like the real thing, at least so far, and that's more powerful than the manufactured drama and competition of Survivor and most reality TV. They still do a lot of human interest back story stuff, where they try to find inspiring or heart-tugging details about the people, which I don't care for...