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  • Bystander effect scary! A guy collapsed on a crowded street, and for some reason it formed an area around him where no one was. We checked on him and called an ambulance, and only after that someone called a local first aider (aka staff of the train station nearby, with a first aid kit and an extra special training).

    First seconds and minutes matter in an emergency. Don't be a bystander. Get that first aid certification you always wanted but never had time and energy to complete. If nothing else, at least read up on riot medicine and stay alert.

    https://riotmedicine.net/downloads#basic-first-aid-for-emergencies

  • Bystander effect scary! A guy collapsed on a crowded street, and for some reason it formed an area around him where no one was. We checked on him and called an ambulance, and only after that someone called a local first aider (aka staff of the train station nearby, with a first aid kit and an extra special training).

    First seconds and minutes matter in an emergency. Don't be a bystander. Get that first aid certification you always wanted but never had time and energy to complete. If nothing else, at least read up on riot medicine and stay alert.

    https://riotmedicine.net/downloads#basic-first-aid-for-emergencies

    One extra reason on getting a first aid training, by the way: I called the emergency services at 2:30pm; they confirmed that the patient is breathing, and said it might take from 1 to 5 hours to dispatch an ambulance in this case. That's in a capital city of Wales, Cardiff. The emergency services called me back at 3:40pm to confirm whether an ambulance is still needed.

    It became a new normal, apparently, that an ambulance won't come soon for any but the most life threatening situations. And you can't always get a taxi because sometimes you have a broken limb or something. So, uh, it might be helpful to at least understand whether you should move the patient or not, and whether you should insist the ambulance must come immediately because the condition is life-threatening.

    Some say it's a post-2020 thing, but I don't think so - I've spent multiple hours lying on a pavement, completely immobile, waiting for an ambulance to come - that was North London back in 2019.

  • One extra reason on getting a first aid training, by the way: I called the emergency services at 2:30pm; they confirmed that the patient is breathing, and said it might take from 1 to 5 hours to dispatch an ambulance in this case. That's in a capital city of Wales, Cardiff. The emergency services called me back at 3:40pm to confirm whether an ambulance is still needed.

    It became a new normal, apparently, that an ambulance won't come soon for any but the most life threatening situations. And you can't always get a taxi because sometimes you have a broken limb or something. So, uh, it might be helpful to at least understand whether you should move the patient or not, and whether you should insist the ambulance must come immediately because the condition is life-threatening.

    Some say it's a post-2020 thing, but I don't think so - I've spent multiple hours lying on a pavement, completely immobile, waiting for an ambulance to come - that was North London back in 2019.

    @nina_kali_nina That's really surprising for a major city. In Milan, Italy, over the past couple of decades I had to call ambulances many times for my family elders (for non life threatening situations) and never waited more than 10-15 minutes.


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