@Edent what's so bad about <div> ... or: Why do you want to avoid them?
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@GrapheneOS I have no involvement beyond what is posted here, but for the record:
1. Your reactions/replies ensure that I would not want to ever touch your project. If that's your goal, please carry on without changing anything.
2. I don't see any hate directed anywhere, by anyone, in any direction. This is not Twitter. There are some adults in the room capable of reading and forming their own opinions.
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@GrapheneOS @Edent jumping in as an outsider: GrapheneOS, you realize that criticisms of behavior that this account is currently exhibiting are not personal attacks on individuals running the account, and that describing behavior as "hostile" is not the same as name-calling? As an account representing an organization, you can expect to be held to higher standards of being able to take cricicism without lashing out in response, moreover, and that's also not what I'm seeing here. This is not reflecting well on you.
@iris @Edent Suspensions were made on our forum due to personal attacks on our team including name calling and insults. Those were directed towards our team and specific people, not towards the project. Ongoing harassment was being alluded to as part of it. The suspensions which were made are not permanent but rather will be lifted one by one as the moderation team reviews what happened and talks to the people involved so that the situation doesn't happen again.
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@GrapheneOS I have no involvement beyond what is posted here, but for the record:
1. Your reactions/replies ensure that I would not want to ever touch your project. If that's your goal, please carry on without changing anything.
2. I don't see any hate directed anywhere, by anyone, in any direction. This is not Twitter. There are some adults in the room capable of reading and forming their own opinions.
@damien @Edent Suspensions were made on our forum due to personal attacks on our team including name calling and insults. Those were directed towards our team and specific people, not towards the project. Ongoing harassment was being alluded to as part of it. The suspensions which were made are not permanent but rather will be lifted one by one as the moderation team reviews what happened and talks to the people involved so that the situation doesn't happen again.
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@iris @Edent Suspensions were made on our forum due to personal attacks on our team including name calling and insults. Those were directed towards our team and specific people, not towards the project. Ongoing harassment was being alluded to as part of it. The suspensions which were made are not permanent but rather will be lifted one by one as the moderation team reviews what happened and talks to the people involved so that the situation doesn't happen again.
@GrapheneOS @Edent Even if I take your word for all of what you just said, this back-and-forth is what I'm seeing by virtue of following your account, and your post that I replied to made multiple references to someone not being a good supporter of the project. Not a good look.
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@GrapheneOS @Edent Even if I take your word for all of what you just said, this back-and-forth is what I'm seeing by virtue of following your account, and your post that I replied to made multiple references to someone not being a good supporter of the project. Not a good look.
@iris @Edent Our team shouldn't be getting called names and insulted by our users on our forum because they think we were taking too long to reply to a question. Within the context of ongoing bullying and harassment towards our team, we didn't find that acceptable. We aren't sure what to do about it now. The people involved are welcome to work it out with us but we aren't comfortable simply moving on from that.
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@damien @Edent Suspensions were made on our forum due to personal attacks on our team including name calling and insults. Those were directed towards our team and specific people, not towards the project. Ongoing harassment was being alluded to as part of it. The suspensions which were made are not permanent but rather will be lifted one by one as the moderation team reviews what happened and talks to the people involved so that the situation doesn't happen again.
@damien We're working things out with him and the others from that thread who were suspended so we've removed our posts. You're welcome to do the same if you want but it's fine if you don't. We plan on removing these 2 replies regardless.
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@iris @Edent Our team shouldn't be getting called names and insulted by our users on our forum because they think we were taking too long to reply to a question. Within the context of ongoing bullying and harassment towards our team, we didn't find that acceptable. We aren't sure what to do about it now. The people involved are welcome to work it out with us but we aren't comfortable simply moving on from that.
@iris We're working things out with him and the others from that thread who were suspended so we've removed our posts. You're welcome to do the same if you want but it's fine if you don't. We plan on removing these 3 replies regardless.
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@GrapheneOS not what I asked and the post I've seen wasn't name-calling (it was a personal insult, which also shouldn't happen) and it wasn't @Edent who posted it. A life ban for liking a post that needs to be edited by moderators seems like a fairly wild overreaction. Will you unban @Edent, please?
I realise it's your forum, so your right to decide, but this act looks a tad extreme. Did @Edent even get a warning before that?
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@Edent
Makes sense. At one point I tried to put my office badge and my Oyster card in the same holder, and neither worked. It’s a bit like web developers who assume you have only one window open on their site and use global cookies for navigation. -
@Edent Ah! I helped a friend with a different problem with a similar cause.
Her mobile would randomly open a browser with a now non-existent site.
She tried multiple browsers and defaults, and they all behaved the same.
Oddly, the URL was that of a public library. Then I noticed she had one of those wallet-like phone cases, with the flap folded behing it.
Sure enough, she had an old library card in there, which turned out to have an NFC chip with that old URL in it.
The fix was to put that card in a different slot of the case, so the NFC reader would not see it.
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@Edent Ah! I helped a friend with a different problem with a similar cause.
Her mobile would randomly open a browser with a now non-existent site.
She tried multiple browsers and defaults, and they all behaved the same.
Oddly, the URL was that of a public library. Then I noticed she had one of those wallet-like phone cases, with the flap folded behing it.
Sure enough, she had an old library card in there, which turned out to have an NFC chip with that old URL in it.
The fix was to put that card in a different slot of the case, so the NFC reader would not see it.
@shtrom amazing!
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@Edent This is good advice in general. Lots of people have multiple NFC cards, and they're subject to the same interference problems. Any time you have multiple NFC items, present the one you want to use separately for better reliability.
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@Edent i mean its not like the egates ever work properly usually at least half of them are offline for some reason
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@Edent i mean its not like the egates ever work properly usually at least half of them are offline for some reason
@Edent also im not surprised its not built to handle multiple nfc tags, seems like a typical british computer system: shit code
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@Edent When I was younger (under 18), I remember that generally you can't use egates as a minor. Normally in UK airports I was directed to speak to one of the border control agents instead. But I remember in Canada they never checked. So every single time I entered the country, I would be forced to use the egate even though I knew it would fail (not telling me why but I eventually guessed it was because of my age).
@jamescrakemerani @Edent the ones at heathrow have a lower limit of 12 i believe
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@jamescrakemerani @Edent the ones at heathrow have a lower limit of 12 i believe
@jamescrakemerani @Edent that said this was back when i was in fact twelve (or whatever the lower limit was, maybe fourteen?)
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@Edent I didn't know it was this easy to change! Also that setting name is very bad, why not call it screen dpi or similar.. 😭
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@Edent @GreenwichSITP ah, jealous. @eatyourgreens and I used to lunchtime drink in there when we were at the Greenwich museums.
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@Edent @funbreaker looks like quite FUD.
There were abuse attacks in big public rooms sometime last year, but the anti-abuse tools have become much better and I haven't seen anything but few random spam DM's for months.
Perhaps the rooms in question are not moderated well and/or not protected by anti-abuse bot. Spam & abuse exist, but they are no longer a big problem like year ago.
For example Meowlnir is a great tool:
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@Edent @funbreaker looks like quite FUD.
There were abuse attacks in big public rooms sometime last year, but the anti-abuse tools have become much better and I haven't seen anything but few random spam DM's for months.
Perhaps the rooms in question are not moderated well and/or not protected by anti-abuse bot. Spam & abuse exist, but they are no longer a big problem like year ago.
For example Meowlnir is a great tool:
https://github.com/maunium/meowlnir@cos @funbreaker
No, it isn't FUD. It is my literal experience of using Matrix.
Even "a few" random spam DMs is more than I get on other messaging tools.