I hate how my allergies make me seem like a republican.
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What makes this worse is restaurants who can't tell you their ingredients lists. I just give up and get the most basic foods.
Then there are the things that no one believes: like the "shelled peanut problem"
I can eat peanuts, love them! but not if they have been shelled in a "facility" because whatever they do it gets some kind of other nut dust on them and down i go! Toss me the epipen it's gonna be a long night.
Allergies are so odd. Obscure but serious ones are annoying.
@futurebird there are restaurants that won't tell you the ingredients?! that seems like it should be a legal requirement
the best was when I went to Germany and if you ask for the "allergy menu" the most hole-in-the-wall place in the middle of nowhere will have a big spreadsheet with all the menu items and the government mandated list of allergens
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@futurebird So just the peels: probably oral allergy syndrome; there's a lot of pollen proteins on the surface.
In general pollen exposure at formative moments seems to have a huge impact.
It's regional too: peanut allergies are way more common in the US than in Europe. Sesame allergies are vanishingly rare the US, but common in MENA.
And then I think a hidden component is a general sensitivity in the form of subclinical MCAS, and new immune learning caused by stressors and viral illnesses. Suddenly new allergies pop up, either real ones (due to inappropriately large IgE production in response to something) or MCAS-like ones (where normal-high amounts of IgE inappropriately trigger mast cells.)
@futurebird I've got friends with corn allergies and that one fuckin' sucks. It's in everything in the US. And nobody knows how to read labels for it. And one had to move out of Arizona because the pollen was so bad.
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What makes this worse is restaurants who can't tell you their ingredients lists. I just give up and get the most basic foods.
Then there are the things that no one believes: like the "shelled peanut problem"
I can eat peanuts, love them! but not if they have been shelled in a "facility" because whatever they do it gets some kind of other nut dust on them and down i go! Toss me the epipen it's gonna be a long night.
Allergies are so odd. Obscure but serious ones are annoying.
@futurebird
Oh good grief, the shelled peanut thing sounds so annoying! Like, in and of itself, but also you have to try to explain and convince people over and over. -
I really want to know if I was born this way or if it is caused by what foods I ate when I was young?
My husband can't tolerate apple peels. Just the peels, the inside is fine. I wonder what the strangest food allergy must be?
@futurebird @aredridel birch pollen, maybe? Are cooked apples safe?
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@futurebird So just the peels: probably oral allergy syndrome; there's a lot of pollen proteins on the surface.
In general pollen exposure at formative moments seems to have a huge impact.
It's regional too: peanut allergies are way more common in the US than in Europe. Sesame allergies are vanishingly rare the US, but common in MENA.
And then I think a hidden component is a general sensitivity in the form of subclinical MCAS, and new immune learning caused by stressors and viral illnesses. Suddenly new allergies pop up, either real ones (due to inappropriately large IgE production in response to something) or MCAS-like ones (where normal-high amounts of IgE inappropriately trigger mast cells.)
@aredridel @futurebird I thought the peanut allergy thing was largely caused by a misguided pediatrician who said let's keep infants away from peanuts so they don't develop allergies, and it became a recommendation but it turned out to be totally wrong and the opposite is true
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I hate how my allergies make me seem like a republican.
Can't eat sunflowers so people think I hate "seed oils" (the other ones are fine, it's just the sunflowers they are deadly)
Can't eat most vegan meats because these people always want to put sunflowers 'n nuts and chickpeas in them.
Generally suspicious of vegan food because of the whole nut issue, even though I really like it when there are no nuts.
@futurebird I have to reassure suspicious people when I admit I can't eat much soy without a toilet apocalypse occurring lol
I'm like I'm sorry, I would actually love to eat tofu I just cant, it looks delicious tho

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@aredridel @futurebird I thought the peanut allergy thing was largely caused by a misguided pediatrician who said let's keep infants away from peanuts so they don't develop allergies, and it became a recommendation but it turned out to be totally wrong and the opposite is true
@aburka @futurebird Made worse, but the actual reality is complex and we're still learning all the situations that can lead to sensitization, and how to desensitize. We're getting there but it's definitely not a simple single factor thing.
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What makes this worse is restaurants who can't tell you their ingredients lists. I just give up and get the most basic foods.
Then there are the things that no one believes: like the "shelled peanut problem"
I can eat peanuts, love them! but not if they have been shelled in a "facility" because whatever they do it gets some kind of other nut dust on them and down i go! Toss me the epipen it's gonna be a long night.
Allergies are so odd. Obscure but serious ones are annoying.
@futurebird why can't restaurants take personal health seriously? i thought that's what vegans really care about?
i have big problems with vegan culture, and the way a lot of vegans treat criticism of their racism, lack of care about the workers picking their veg, lack of giving any fucks about poverty and food deserts, and lack of care about how various peoples' diet works, as being completely anti-vegan, and will not listen, and will call you a hateful murderer behind your back if you won't swallow their bullshit whole.
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What makes this worse is restaurants who can't tell you their ingredients lists. I just give up and get the most basic foods.
Then there are the things that no one believes: like the "shelled peanut problem"
I can eat peanuts, love them! but not if they have been shelled in a "facility" because whatever they do it gets some kind of other nut dust on them and down i go! Toss me the epipen it's gonna be a long night.
Allergies are so odd. Obscure but serious ones are annoying.
@futurebird I used to think I was allergic to peanuts and was surprised when I didn't test for it. It turns out many peanuts are processed on equipment shared with cashews and that's what I'm allergic to!
Edit to fix the autocucumber of Manny to the intended many -
@futurebird why can't restaurants take personal health seriously? i thought that's what vegans really care about?
i have big problems with vegan culture, and the way a lot of vegans treat criticism of their racism, lack of care about the workers picking their veg, lack of giving any fucks about poverty and food deserts, and lack of care about how various peoples' diet works, as being completely anti-vegan, and will not listen, and will call you a hateful murderer behind your back if you won't swallow their bullshit whole.
Most of the vegans I know have grown out of that. Or ... I don't hang around them anymore LOL.
But I know a lot of chill vegans.
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@futurebird I used to think I was allergic to peanuts and was surprised when I didn't test for it. It turns out many peanuts are processed on equipment shared with cashews and that's what I'm allergic to!
Edit to fix the autocucumber of Manny to the intended manyYUP.
If you get peanuts in the shell you will be safe and can enjoy them.
But shelling peanuts is a bit tedious.
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Most of the vegans I know have grown out of that. Or ... I don't hang around them anymore LOL.
But I know a lot of chill vegans.
@futurebird there are some popular long-standing accounts around fedi behind whom are people i've mutually blocked because they don't give a single fuck about the humans being exploited to provide them with any food at all.
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I hate how my allergies make me seem like a republican.
Can't eat sunflowers so people think I hate "seed oils" (the other ones are fine, it's just the sunflowers they are deadly)
Can't eat most vegan meats because these people always want to put sunflowers 'n nuts and chickpeas in them.
Generally suspicious of vegan food because of the whole nut issue, even though I really like it when there are no nuts.
@futurebird
My immune system allergies out to all sorts of things EXCEPT nuts.There are vegan “Meats” made from
Mushroom Proteins that are quite good.Soybean Allergy?
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@futurebird @jonquass Oh, it's just a capitalist "what does this mean in the market" binary thinking thing :(
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I hate how my allergies make me seem like a republican.
Can't eat sunflowers so people think I hate "seed oils" (the other ones are fine, it's just the sunflowers they are deadly)
Can't eat most vegan meats because these people always want to put sunflowers 'n nuts and chickpeas in them.
Generally suspicious of vegan food because of the whole nut issue, even though I really like it when there are no nuts.
@futurebird you have my sympathy. I’m sensitive to gluten, but much much worse for me is Xanthan Gum and this is used in most gluten free products. I do my own triage.
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What makes this worse is restaurants who can't tell you their ingredients lists. I just give up and get the most basic foods.
Then there are the things that no one believes: like the "shelled peanut problem"
I can eat peanuts, love them! but not if they have been shelled in a "facility" because whatever they do it gets some kind of other nut dust on them and down i go! Toss me the epipen it's gonna be a long night.
Allergies are so odd. Obscure but serious ones are annoying.
@futurebird I have a fun one! Something that likes to grow on (or is produced by something that grows on) temperature-abused cooked meat dishes. Eat a dish and it's fine, eat the leftovers that weren't fridged until a couple hours later than ideal, and there's a small chance I get anaphylaxis from it. Took years to figure out the pattern because there was no shared ingredient among the triggers!
I started being a real hardass about either keeping the food hot/refrigerating the leftovers promptly, and not eating meat leftovers unless I was confident that those had occurred (even at some risk of offending someone that I didn't trust their food handling). Still rarely got it from restaurants. Started vetting restaurants by checking to see if they had a pattern of food holding temperature violations on their health inspection reports and it's been a good number of years since my last reaction. Still carry epi-pens, of course.
Would love to know the actual trigger, but at least I figured out how to avoid it!
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@futurebird I have a fun one! Something that likes to grow on (or is produced by something that grows on) temperature-abused cooked meat dishes. Eat a dish and it's fine, eat the leftovers that weren't fridged until a couple hours later than ideal, and there's a small chance I get anaphylaxis from it. Took years to figure out the pattern because there was no shared ingredient among the triggers!
I started being a real hardass about either keeping the food hot/refrigerating the leftovers promptly, and not eating meat leftovers unless I was confident that those had occurred (even at some risk of offending someone that I didn't trust their food handling). Still rarely got it from restaurants. Started vetting restaurants by checking to see if they had a pattern of food holding temperature violations on their health inspection reports and it's been a good number of years since my last reaction. Still carry epi-pens, of course.
Would love to know the actual trigger, but at least I figured out how to avoid it!
@futurebird (no other allergies, food or otherwise)
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@aredridel @futurebird I thought the peanut allergy thing was largely caused by a misguided pediatrician who said let's keep infants away from peanuts so they don't develop allergies, and it became a recommendation but it turned out to be totally wrong and the opposite is true
@aburka @aredridel@kolektiva.social @futurebird that's how peanut allergies exploded after it was discovered that some people have a peanut allergy. it doesn't necessarily explain the allergy itself.
two things i see being major factors in developing various allergies: parents who smoked indoors, and outdoor air pollution from burnt fossil fuel exhaust. i know a few people who have either been allergic to everything as a child or are still that allergic now, and their parents were heavy chain smokers. this is not unknown to medical science.
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What makes this worse is restaurants who can't tell you their ingredients lists. I just give up and get the most basic foods.
Then there are the things that no one believes: like the "shelled peanut problem"
I can eat peanuts, love them! but not if they have been shelled in a "facility" because whatever they do it gets some kind of other nut dust on them and down i go! Toss me the epipen it's gonna be a long night.
Allergies are so odd. Obscure but serious ones are annoying.
@futurebird evolution: It can't work miracles, it just does the best that it can.
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@futurebird you have my sympathy. I’m sensitive to gluten, but much much worse for me is Xanthan Gum and this is used in most gluten free products. I do my own triage.
That gluten/xanthan gum thing is a bit like how so many places, especially schools are very proud of how they replace peanut butter with "sun butter"
One day there was a dish of "peanut noodles" ... "oh no we'd never use peanuts! it's sunbutter... no one uses peanuts at a school. Allergies!"
It **said** peanuts, that's why I ate it.
I was just like "It was nice knowing everyone. Goodbye."
(Three epi pens and a trip to the ER. They now label better. )