> Our teams still have not found a secure way to bring this feature to non-Apple devices without putting all the data on a user’s iPhone at risk.
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> Our teams still have not found a secure way to bring this feature to non-Apple devices without putting all the data on a user’s iPhone at risk. And as a result, we have not been able to bring the feature to the EU.
if your cross-device protocol is only secure when you have complete control of all involved devices, you have designed an insecure protocol.
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/09/the-digital-markets-acts-impacts-on-eu-users/
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> Our teams still have not found a secure way to bring this feature to non-Apple devices without putting all the data on a user’s iPhone at risk. And as a result, we have not been able to bring the feature to the EU.
if your cross-device protocol is only secure when you have complete control of all involved devices, you have designed an insecure protocol.
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/09/the-digital-markets-acts-impacts-on-eu-users/
> Despite our concerns with the DMA, teams across Apple are spending thousands of hours to bring new features to the European Union while meeting the law’s requirements. But it’s become clear that we can’t solve every problem the DMA creates.
Apple is complaining about spending "thousands of hours" figuring out how to comply with EU law, meainwhile...
> As of September 2025 Apple has a market cap of $3.765 Trillion USD. This makes Apple the world's 3rd most valuable company by market cap according to our data.
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> Despite our concerns with the DMA, teams across Apple are spending thousands of hours to bring new features to the European Union while meeting the law’s requirements. But it’s become clear that we can’t solve every problem the DMA creates.
Apple is complaining about spending "thousands of hours" figuring out how to comply with EU law, meainwhile...
> As of September 2025 Apple has a market cap of $3.765 Trillion USD. This makes Apple the world's 3rd most valuable company by market cap according to our data.
@ansuz did they ever mention what exactly the problems created by the DMA are?
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@oblomov in this statement: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/09/the-digital-markets-acts-impacts-on-eu-users/
It seems like nonsense to me, though.
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@oblomov in this statement: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/09/the-digital-markets-acts-impacts-on-eu-users/
It seems like nonsense to me, though.
@ansuz complete nonsense. The pretense of security in particular is complete bollocks.
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> Despite our concerns with the DMA, teams across Apple are spending thousands of hours to bring new features to the European Union while meeting the law’s requirements. But it’s become clear that we can’t solve every problem the DMA creates.
Apple is complaining about spending "thousands of hours" figuring out how to comply with EU law, meainwhile...
> As of September 2025 Apple has a market cap of $3.765 Trillion USD. This makes Apple the world's 3rd most valuable company by market cap according to our data.
@ansuz to me it feels like the quiet part is always:
- There is a really simple way to comply
- We have spent thousands of hours trying to find a way that technically complies while allowing us to do what we had already decided to do
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