@Edent what's so bad about <div> ... or: Why do you want to avoid them?
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@Edent I have a Meshtastic node (Heltec v3). AIUI the difference with Meshcore is that 'tastic can be fully P2P, while 'core requires router nodes and allows more "hops". So 'tastic is best for ad-hoc setups, 'core is better for co-ordinated, semi-permanent networks. However 'tastic recently made router-router hops "free", so it can be used for both situations.
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I saw a conférence about Reticulum (at CCC IIRC) and it looked very interesting, I don't know a lot about mesh so I have no adive but I would compare it to meshmatic -
@Edent I prefer Meshtastic, but my local mesh switched to Meshcore. MC is not as good. It doesn't do as much. If you turn on a new node, it takes days to populated with the mesh nodes and half of them are unreliable links. I wasn't involved in the vote to switch.
Meshtastic has sensor integration and some simple stuff to get started. It's useful for IoT stuff. It quickly finds local nodes even factory fresh.
Both apps are quirky. Only one of them is open source.
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@Edent I don't know if Benn Jordan has a presence on Mastodon, but I'm sure he'd have something to say on the subject. ..
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@Edent I've so far stuck to meshtastic because it seems more, well, meshy. My use case doesn't include joining a wider local mesh so it's exactly what I need.
If your use case is joining a wider local mesh then you have to go with the (local) crowd, which you'll probably need a non-mesh network to find out about. Probably Facebook but who knows!
I'm currently using Sensecap and RAK card devices which work pretty well.
#meshtastic or #meshcore - how to find out what the others around you are using?
The lazy way: Compare https://map.meshcore.dev/ (meshcore) with https://meshmap.net/ (meshtastic).
And the obvious brute force idea would probably also work: Get a device, flash one of the two, try it out for a week, flash the other, try that out for a week.
(Have not flashed my own shiny new device yet for either. Intend to start with meshcore.)
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@Edent I wanted to try meshcore but the website and github mention military and law enforcement use" in multiple places proudly, so not sure how I feel about that
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#meshtastic or #meshcore - how to find out what the others around you are using?
The lazy way: Compare https://map.meshcore.dev/ (meshcore) with https://meshmap.net/ (meshtastic).
And the obvious brute force idea would probably also work: Get a device, flash one of the two, try it out for a week, flash the other, try that out for a week.
(Have not flashed my own shiny new device yet for either. Intend to start with meshcore.)
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#meshtastic or #meshcore - how to find out what the others around you are using?
The lazy way: Compare https://map.meshcore.dev/ (meshcore) with https://meshmap.net/ (meshtastic).
And the obvious brute force idea would probably also work: Get a device, flash one of the two, try it out for a week, flash the other, try that out for a week.
(Have not flashed my own shiny new device yet for either. Intend to start with meshcore.)
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@Edent this is the best talk on Meshtastic I found
https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-hacker-s-guide-to-meshtastic-off-grid-encrypted-lora-meshnets-for-cheap
Meshtastic very active in my area.
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@Edent I’m still to work out the difference between meshtastic (the first one?) and meshcore.
Do they even speak to each other?@rachel @Edent someone's working on a bridge https://github.com/AkitaEngineering/Akita-Meshtastic-Meshcore-Bridge
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@Edent my understanding is that meshtastic is older and possibly in more widespread use, but meshcore can probably do more?
I've used meshtastic a lot and found it to be servicible in my rural community. I am interested exploring meshcore, but chickens and eggs have to come first.
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@Edent Everyone has the fantasy of "emergency comms! I will be so cool!" but no-one is currently involved in the civil defence/emergency response world, are they? (I'm not, but I know some who are).
Unless you take it seriously enough to be a 'job', any new ad-hoc network tech looks tempting, but it's a distraction.
Enjoy it for its own sake; a $35 stick can communicate with other $35 sticks miles away, without any coordination! It's great fun 🙂
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@rachel :shrug emoji with confused eyes:
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@Edent I'm on #meshcore because that looks to be more active in my area. (Netherlands)
I sarted with 25 euro investment for a helltec v3 (3.2 iirc) and I learned a ton about wireless signals already. I am planning to build a repeater to get the network more stable and put that out on the balcony where I live.
I'm having fun but it's still very new. It feels like proper emergency comms are still with the hams, but then I need to get a license.
Highly subjective takes, all of this. 😊Learning
@CommissarBas @Edent I was on meshcore originally, with no-one to talk to. Then I switched to meshtastic (same hardware, 5 minutes reflashing max) and discovered two of my friends in town were there already.
There is some bad blood in some of the tech communities, and if you want to account for that, well ... /shrug I know what I've been told but there's no point in repeating hearsay.
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@krahabors I'm not interested in new or fancy. I just like tried and tested.
@Edent @krahabors I like the Sensecap T1000-E, because it literally fits in my wallet and I don't forget it. At home I'm using Heltec V3s, because I have power. Have just got a RAK4361 because I'd like a solar-powered external unit, and ESP32 units like the Heltec are too power hungry to remain stable.
These are all relatively cheap :-) it's hard to go too far wrong. -
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#meshtastic or #meshcore - how to find out what the others around you are using?
The lazy way: Compare https://map.meshcore.dev/ (meshcore) with https://meshmap.net/ (meshtastic).
And the obvious brute force idea would probably also work: Get a device, flash one of the two, try it out for a week, flash the other, try that out for a week.
(Have not flashed my own shiny new device yet for either. Intend to start with meshcore.)
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@ju menomale che è successo con qualcosa di facilmente sostituibile
ti rimborsano di tutto quanto, VERO?
(e soprattutto, l'avevi comprato per tempo e hai ancora scorte a sufficenza per qualche giorno, spero :) )
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Oggi ho finito di guardare Il Traditore di Marco Bellocchio sulla vicenda di Tommaso Buscetta. All'epoca io ero alle scuole superiori. Alla strage di Capaci cademmo tutti dal pero - letteralmente - perché nessuno ci aveva spiegato nulla e per noi, qui al Nord, la mafia era qualcosa di remoto. Sono passati tanti anni e spero che i ragazzi di oggi siano più fortunati di noi in quanto a consapevolezza. Film ottimo, l'ho gradito molto, soprattutto sul maxi processo.
#Unofilm #film #filmMastodon
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Vabbeh...
le Poste si sono perse il pacco, chissà a chi l'hanno consegnato.
Erano due sacchi da 15 chili di lettiera per gatti, buon pro gli faccia.
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@vitaut @oschonrock I'd suggest going for it anyway. AVX is basically when Intel finally started getting SIMD right.
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@davesh this isn't about me. (And, I think I'd rather just drink the Dr. Pepper, if I'm doing anything with it. Fermenting it into wine seems like a long road to a worse end.)
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@swelljoe You're telling me you wouldn't try Dr. Pepper wine?
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@InternetEh they're doing real freaky shit. Just about anything with sugar can be fermented into "wine", and there are folks making wine from soda, damned near every fruit and vegetable, and other random stuff (e.g. animal parts) thrown into something with sugar. Wine YouTubers are sick and someone needs to stop them. I keep clicking "don't show this channel" and there's always new ones.
