anyone here know how to use "linux"
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ok so I got this old core 2 duo machine, you know, a modern x64 intel computer. the Fedora 43 live usb doesn't boot on it, grub says something has a bad sector. but the same live usb works just fine on another computer, and i reimaged the usb drive just in case and it's still misbehaving. I don't think I'm gonna get this working, but I would be interested to know if Fedora dropped backwards compat with non-uefi systems or something like that
@aeva it could require a 32bit UEFI boot loader. I have that on an old Mac mini with a Core 2 Duo
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I'm also fantasizing about making my own live USB distro for mollytime, so if anyone knows anything about how to make a custom live linux distro, 🤙
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@pupxel i mean like one with a gui and sound
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@pupxel i mean like one with a gui and sound
@aeva it has instructions all the way to installing steam :3
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@aeva oh wow.
The next thing I'd try is probably GRML (which has the big advantage that if it doesn't boot, the developers want to fix it).
Might also be that the UEFI interface is not fully compliant, that machine is probably from a time when vendors were still learning.
@GyrosGeier I don't think this machine has a "uefi"
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@aeva it has instructions all the way to installing steam :3
@pupxel I'll keep that in my back pocket for the next time I feel like I have too much free time 😅
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@pupxel I'll keep that in my back pocket for the next time I feel like I have too much free time 😅
@aeva if you want to take the shorter route and modify an existing distro, everyone should have instructions for that, ubuntu's at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeDistroHowto
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@accela that'll do. can you bring it over here?
@accela alternatively, how does one do that
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@GyrosGeier I don't think this machine has a "uefi"
@GyrosGeier do you think a CD installer work or would that be basically the same problem again? is that still a thing?
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@GyrosGeier I don't think this machine has a "uefi"
@GyrosGeier I just checked, the options are @efi, non-efi, and "auto"
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anyone here know how to use "linux"
@aeva yes, for sufficiently narrow definitions of "linux"
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currently my best plan to get mollytime working on that machine is to port mollytime to haiku. I think my meds are starting to wear off for the night
ok it turns out the ancient version of ubuntu studio that's running on my old core 2 duo desktop only recently fell out of support because i had the good sense to install an LTS version, so upgrading to the latest LTS might be fairly straight forward. current plan is to do that and if the machine is still operable afterward, see if the clang version is new enough to build mollytime and otherwise install distrobox or something if it is not
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ok it turns out the ancient version of ubuntu studio that's running on my old core 2 duo desktop only recently fell out of support because i had the good sense to install an LTS version, so upgrading to the latest LTS might be fairly straight forward. current plan is to do that and if the machine is still operable afterward, see if the clang version is new enough to build mollytime and otherwise install distrobox or something if it is not
also, i had this great / horrible realization that on a long enough time scale, gentoo is probably the best option for continuing to run linux on hardware that is old enough for normal linux distros to tell you to throw it in the garbage
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also, i had this great / horrible realization that on a long enough time scale, gentoo is probably the best option for continuing to run linux on hardware that is old enough for normal linux distros to tell you to throw it in the garbage
@aeva That's what I do! Compile binpkgs on a modern (from 2013) PC and then install them on 20-year-old x86 hardware. Works great for me, though lack of SSE2 requires me to patch some softwares on my own, Gentoo didn't do it for me.
(But I can't help you with Mollytime because I've no idea what that is and it's not in the Gentoo repositories, sorry)
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also, i had this great / horrible realization that on a long enough time scale, gentoo is probably the best option for continuing to run linux on hardware that is old enough for normal linux distros to tell you to throw it in the garbage
@aeva similar conclusion here 🥲 Gentoo or a DIY distro
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@aeva similar conclusion here 🥲 Gentoo or a DIY distro
@nina_kali_nina I should probably bite the bullet and switch this machine over to gentoo sooner rather than later.
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@aeva That's what I do! Compile binpkgs on a modern (from 2013) PC and then install them on 20-year-old x86 hardware. Works great for me, though lack of SSE2 requires me to patch some softwares on my own, Gentoo didn't do it for me.
(But I can't help you with Mollytime because I've no idea what that is and it's not in the Gentoo repositories, sorry)
@vaporeon_ mollytime is a visual programming language for audio synthesis that I have been developing since this summer. I would be surprised if there were a package for it yet since I haven't announced a stable release yet. Off the top of my head, the software dependencies are a compiler that can build C++ 23, meson, ninja, python, pybind11, and SDL3.
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@vaporeon_ mollytime is a visual programming language for audio synthesis that I have been developing since this summer. I would be surprised if there were a package for it yet since I haven't announced a stable release yet. Off the top of my head, the software dependencies are a compiler that can build C++ 23, meson, ninja, python, pybind11, and SDL3.
@vaporeon_ I'm not using any special cpu intrinsics, so but the code assumes a 64 bit CPU. I don't know of any reason why a x64v1 CPU would not be able to use it.
If the 64bit constraint were worked around, the great reliance on 64 bit floating point math probably limits how far this can scale down.
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@vaporeon_ I don't mind the idea of potentially running gentoo on this machine though
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@vaporeon_ I tried the latest debian testing, but I wasn't able to get the live ISO to boot either from a bluray or a usb on this machine
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@aeva In principle, I ran Gentoo on an Intel Core 2 Duo Mac Mini until that computer broke, so for a Core 2 Duo, you don't even need a second modern computer for compiling (though that would be faster), you can just install and use Gentoo.
I can confirm that Gentoo works on BIOS systems no problem, I've personally installed it on multiple systems that only have BIOS.
It has Clang 20 and libsdl3.Although, if you don't actually want Gentoo, you just want your stuff to work: did you test yet whether the latest Debian boots from that USB stick? I remember installing it successfully on BIOS-only hardware a few years ago, but the latest version (Debian 13, which is the only one that has SDL3).
Unfortunately can't test it for you because they dropped 32-bit x86 support in that latest version
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@vaporeon_ this is the current tail of my devlog thread if you are interested, btw https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@aeva/115620169762742174
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@vaporeon_ I'm not using any special cpu intrinsics, so but the code assumes a 64 bit CPU. I don't know of any reason why a x64v1 CPU would not be able to use it.
If the 64bit constraint were worked around, the great reliance on 64 bit floating point math probably limits how far this can scale down.
