Just a thought and theory about artificial gravity in #scifi, in shows like #StarTrek.
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@lydiaconwell Maybe an open top space station, or something with constant speed. Inertia of the gas patch would cause problems when accelerating/decelerating/changing direction...
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@lydiaconwell You'd need really tall walls to keep the pressure in, though.
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See Ringworld by Larry Niven
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@lydiaconwell you could, but imagine the occasional solar wind whistling across the top like breath over a bottle, or maybe a warp-speed version of having one window of your car rolled down. Maybe they just don't do it because the noise is too annoying. Picard (at the top of his voice): "I SAID MAKE IT SO! WILL SOMEBODY CLOSE THE ROOF!"
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@lydiaconwell you could, but imagine the occasional solar wind whistling across the top like breath over a bottle, or maybe a warp-speed version of having one window of your car rolled down. Maybe they just don't do it because the noise is too annoying. Picard (at the top of his voice): "I SAID MAKE IT SO! WILL SOMEBODY CLOSE THE ROOF!"
@lydiaconwell I nearly had Picard swearing in that last post, but actually he'd still keep his cool, wouldn't he...
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@seb321 @lydiaconwell It failed on the Klingon ship in Star Trek VI. Its reliability is entirely dependent on the production budget.
@davidbcohen @lydiaconwell yes, I remember that because it was a first (I think). Even now, SFX struggle to do convincing zero g interior scenes. Expanse had some of the best space FX, but they had difficulty with real actors doing real things in zero g inside spaceships.
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@lydiaconwell Both the cold and the radiation would be unbearable, though.
@tkarcher @lydiaconwell That was my first thought - cold, radiation and the danger of being obliterated by some unexpected microscopic lump of galactic/interstellar dust or debris while travelling at Ludicrous Speed(tm).
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@lydiaconwell it’s the one thing which is completely reliable, even when all other ship’s systems are failing. I’m thinking it’s got to be an actual ‘thing’ rather than a process. Maybe a trapped black hole somewhere in the bowels of the ship. Some kind of lensing to line up the field to work with flat floors?
@seb321 @lydiaconwell, if it were to do with singularities, it'd have to be something like Romulan warbirds' power systems (in which case why not just use it as a general power source?) else… well, you wouldn't want it to escape containment.
Also, a quick bit of searching led to https://www.reddit.com/r/DaystromInstitute/comments/2b7poz/why_artificial_gravity_never_goes_offline/ where there's some interesting discussion of this. Some failures are mentioned.
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Sorry to be "well actually", but atmosphere is also moved aways from planet by solar winds.
So you would have to have some sort of shield (which would probably be there either way) to stop electrons hitting your athmosphere.Also - you would probably get ton of radiation without any shield / shielding.
https://www.sciencenewstoday.org/what-are-the-effects-of-solar-wind-on-earths-atmosphere
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@davidbcohen @lydiaconwell yes, I remember that because it was a first (I think). Even now, SFX struggle to do convincing zero g interior scenes. Expanse had some of the best space FX, but they had difficulty with real actors doing real things in zero g inside spaceships.
@seb321 @lydiaconwell Apollo 13 did in in real zero g (using filming on NASA’s ‘Vomit Comet’. Gravity did it with *masses* of CGI removal of harnesses and gimbals. But you are right, it is hard (and big money) to do convincingly.
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@lydiaconwell You'd need really tall walls to keep the pressure in, though.
@StarkRG What would happen without tall walls? Would the air rush out the sides?
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@lydiaconwell not sure about that. my planet has gravity, and the air still goes up for *miles*
@fishidwardrobe Yes, but isn't that air sitting on top of more air?
But now you mention that, the open-top ship might be a pillar of air going through space.
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@seb321 @lydiaconwell There's a lovely bit in one of Becky Chambers' novels where kids are playing in a park on a colony ship which has a structure with no artificial gravity.
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@lydiaconwell Would be nice to see an Enterprise convertible.
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@lydiaconwell I don't do a lot of writing in sci-fi, but when I do, I have a dark "shielded" observation deck for stargazing. The "shield" is just a gravity field dome a few feet think that pushes inward hard enough to make the air density drop to 0 over a few feet.
The quality of the stargazing on spaceships is maybe something I think about too much 🤔
@piper Interesting. By 'field' do you mean it's some kind of energy barrier rather than a solid substance?
And what's the bit about air density? Does that create gravity?
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@lydiaconwell you could, but imagine the occasional solar wind whistling across the top like breath over a bottle, or maybe a warp-speed version of having one window of your car rolled down. Maybe they just don't do it because the noise is too annoying. Picard (at the top of his voice): "I SAID MAKE IT SO! WILL SOMEBODY CLOSE THE ROOF!"
@brian_burton That's how Picard lots his hair. He was on the maiden voyage.
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@brian_burton That's how Picard lots his hair. He was on the maiden voyage.
@brian_burton Although, 'breath over a bottle' kinda sounds like it would be a pleasant sound.
It's could be a singing open-top ship.
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@lydiaconwell Both the cold and the radiation would be unbearable, though.
@tkarcher Well, you'd obviously have your fur coat and shades on too -- to complete the cool look.
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@tkarcher @lydiaconwell That was my first thought - cold, radiation and the danger of being obliterated by some unexpected microscopic lump of galactic/interstellar dust or debris while travelling at Ludicrous Speed(tm).
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Sorry to be "well actually", but atmosphere is also moved aways from planet by solar winds.
So you would have to have some sort of shield (which would probably be there either way) to stop electrons hitting your athmosphere.Also - you would probably get ton of radiation without any shield / shielding.
https://www.sciencenewstoday.org/what-are-the-effects-of-solar-wind-on-earths-atmosphere
@FandaSin Don't worry about the well-actually. It's all leading to interesting things.
Re. Open-top ship: One can dream ...
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