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#GrapheneOS PSA
I've seen a lot of social media posts going around claiming things about #GrapheneOS and the French government that I simply could not verify. Lots of misleading news headlines too.
I'd like to take this opportunity to hopefully bring some clarity... from the POV of a new GrapheneOS user in France, who cares deeply about the project.
Here are the facts - as far as I can tell.
The French newspaper Le Parisien published an article about GrapheneOS on November 19th which was filled with inaccuracies and boasted that GrapheneOS was a safe haven for drug traffickers.
The GrapheneOS team was alarmed about the headline and reactions... and decided they no longer felt safe operating servers in France. So they terminated their OVH server contract / usage... and moved their servers overseas, mostly outside of Europe.
French GrapheneOS users can still use it. I installed it last Friday and see regular updates...
I haven't seen any official French government announcements about police/officials going after GrapheneOS - as far as I can tell.
Please feel free to correct me if I got anything wrong!
I just see a lot of fearmongering going around and I hope this won't dissuade people from using it. Its sandboxed profiles and advanced security settings (automatically turning off Wifi and Bluetooth for example) are really amazing.
/fin
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#GrapheneOS PSA
I've seen a lot of social media posts going around claiming things about #GrapheneOS and the French government that I simply could not verify. Lots of misleading news headlines too.
I'd like to take this opportunity to hopefully bring some clarity... from the POV of a new GrapheneOS user in France, who cares deeply about the project.
Here are the facts - as far as I can tell.
The French newspaper Le Parisien published an article about GrapheneOS on November 19th which was filled with inaccuracies and boasted that GrapheneOS was a safe haven for drug traffickers.
The GrapheneOS team was alarmed about the headline and reactions... and decided they no longer felt safe operating servers in France. So they terminated their OVH server contract / usage... and moved their servers overseas, mostly outside of Europe.
French GrapheneOS users can still use it. I installed it last Friday and see regular updates...
I haven't seen any official French government announcements about police/officials going after GrapheneOS - as far as I can tell.
Please feel free to correct me if I got anything wrong!
I just see a lot of fearmongering going around and I hope this won't dissuade people from using it. Its sandboxed profiles and advanced security settings (automatically turning off Wifi and Bluetooth for example) are really amazing.
/fin
@elena The GrapheneOS team's constant paranoia-fueled accusations about everyone and everything attacking them is what is dissuading me from using it. I saw a screenshot from a Matrix- or Discord-channel (albeit unverified origins of said screenshot) accusing the French government of coming after them, and accusing /e/OS and iodeOS of attacking them. If it was just a newspaper article attacking them that triggered that, well... that says a lot.
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@elena The GrapheneOS team's constant paranoia-fueled accusations about everyone and everything attacking them is what is dissuading me from using it. I saw a screenshot from a Matrix- or Discord-channel (albeit unverified origins of said screenshot) accusing the French government of coming after them, and accusing /e/OS and iodeOS of attacking them. If it was just a newspaper article attacking them that triggered that, well... that says a lot.
@elena I also don't want a Pixel.
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#GrapheneOS PSA
I've seen a lot of social media posts going around claiming things about #GrapheneOS and the French government that I simply could not verify. Lots of misleading news headlines too.
I'd like to take this opportunity to hopefully bring some clarity... from the POV of a new GrapheneOS user in France, who cares deeply about the project.
Here are the facts - as far as I can tell.
The French newspaper Le Parisien published an article about GrapheneOS on November 19th which was filled with inaccuracies and boasted that GrapheneOS was a safe haven for drug traffickers.
The GrapheneOS team was alarmed about the headline and reactions... and decided they no longer felt safe operating servers in France. So they terminated their OVH server contract / usage... and moved their servers overseas, mostly outside of Europe.
French GrapheneOS users can still use it. I installed it last Friday and see regular updates...
I haven't seen any official French government announcements about police/officials going after GrapheneOS - as far as I can tell.
Please feel free to correct me if I got anything wrong!
I just see a lot of fearmongering going around and I hope this won't dissuade people from using it. Its sandboxed profiles and advanced security settings (automatically turning off Wifi and Bluetooth for example) are really amazing.
/fin
@elena I've also been following this closely and the only thing I'd add is that the person interviewed in the Le Parisien article is also the head of the cybercrime unit that arrested the CEO of Telegram last year for similar accusations (see Reuters article below).
Whether the accusations against GrapheneOS are true or not, I can't say I blame them for taking action.
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@elena I've also been following this closely and the only thing I'd add is that the person interviewed in the Le Parisien article is also the head of the cybercrime unit that arrested the CEO of Telegram last year for similar accusations (see Reuters article below).
Whether the accusations against GrapheneOS are true or not, I can't say I blame them for taking action.
@shollyethan Ah yes that’s an excellent point Ethan, thank you! 🙏
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@elena I also don't want a Pixel.
@rasmus I understand! As soon as I unboxed the Pixel I immediately flashed GrapheneOS on it… and of course I haven’t installed Google Play Services…
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#GrapheneOS PSA
I've seen a lot of social media posts going around claiming things about #GrapheneOS and the French government that I simply could not verify. Lots of misleading news headlines too.
I'd like to take this opportunity to hopefully bring some clarity... from the POV of a new GrapheneOS user in France, who cares deeply about the project.
Here are the facts - as far as I can tell.
The French newspaper Le Parisien published an article about GrapheneOS on November 19th which was filled with inaccuracies and boasted that GrapheneOS was a safe haven for drug traffickers.
The GrapheneOS team was alarmed about the headline and reactions... and decided they no longer felt safe operating servers in France. So they terminated their OVH server contract / usage... and moved their servers overseas, mostly outside of Europe.
French GrapheneOS users can still use it. I installed it last Friday and see regular updates...
I haven't seen any official French government announcements about police/officials going after GrapheneOS - as far as I can tell.
Please feel free to correct me if I got anything wrong!
I just see a lot of fearmongering going around and I hope this won't dissuade people from using it. Its sandboxed profiles and advanced security settings (automatically turning off Wifi and Bluetooth for example) are really amazing.
/fin
@elena@aseachange.com this thread summarized the situation : https://ublog.hurel.me/notes/afawszm8m1bi23vg
Basically french government not understanding anything about technology and considering privacy as suspicious.
Another good article by serious french journalists here : https://next.ink/210495/accuse-doutil-pour-criminels-grapheneos-rompt-avec-la-france/
But why are you on grapheneOs if you have nothing to hide ? 😛 -
@elena@aseachange.com this thread summarized the situation : https://ublog.hurel.me/notes/afawszm8m1bi23vg
Basically french government not understanding anything about technology and considering privacy as suspicious.
Another good article by serious french journalists here : https://next.ink/210495/accuse-doutil-pour-criminels-grapheneos-rompt-avec-la-france/
But why are you on grapheneOs if you have nothing to hide ? 😛@nathan Thank you for these links!
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