Has Gaza done better with Donald Trump or Joseph Biden as President of the United States?
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@evan From my limited perspective I think for the people on the ground very little has changed asides from the pace of the genocide.
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@evan well the main problem is that, since the US has been so much worse off with Trump that most of the coverage has shifted away from that situation
So like it's not the easiest to discern, but the Trump admin seems to be...completely uninvolved with much of that situation
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@evan From my limited perspective I think for the people on the ground very little has changed asides from the pace of the genocide.
@Chigaze that seems like a big thing.
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@evan I hate this question (sorry!) - Gaza hasn't done well under any US President since Clinton, there are no options I can vote for in this question. I'd say that US Presidents have had very little impact since the 1990s, Ariel Sharon and Benjamin Netanyahu have had a much more significant impact.
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@evan there is no "better" genocide
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@evan none of the above
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@evan I hate this question (sorry!) - Gaza hasn't done well under any US President since Clinton, there are no options I can vote for in this question. I'd say that US Presidents have had very little impact since the 1990s, Ariel Sharon and Benjamin Netanyahu have had a much more significant impact.
@dneary the question isn't whether Gaza has done well; it's which presidential term has been worse.
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@dneary the question isn't whether Gaza has done well; it's which presidential term has been worse.
@dneary I hate this question, too, by the way.
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@evan there is no "better" genocide
@matildalove this is the best answer here.
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@evan none of the above
@sethmelton could you elaborate?
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@evan well the main problem is that, since the US has been so much worse off with Trump that most of the coverage has shifted away from that situation
So like it's not the easiest to discern, but the Trump admin seems to be...completely uninvolved with much of that situation
@countablenewt maybe for some people it's easier to discern.
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@countablenewt maybe for some people it's easier to discern.
@evan that's definitely true, especially for those who are more directly involved or more specifically looking to stay updated
But in my experience as a person who tries to be generally informed, specific news about Gaza has to cut through a lot more noise like ICE deportations, Ukraine, Central America, and US healthcare regulation (which I need to keep a pulse on for work)
At least in that sense: a general understanding from the public, it's been significantly harder under Trump to maintain
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@evan that's definitely true, especially for those who are more directly involved or more specifically looking to stay updated
But in my experience as a person who tries to be generally informed, specific news about Gaza has to cut through a lot more noise like ICE deportations, Ukraine, Central America, and US healthcare regulation (which I need to keep a pulse on for work)
At least in that sense: a general understanding from the public, it's been significantly harder under Trump to maintain
@evan As a result of reduced media coverage, we see less of what's going on over there, so the general population isn't pushing for the US to make a better effort over there
the nation generally has a weaker pulse on what's going on over there so we as a nation aren't able to do our part as well
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@evan As a result of reduced media coverage, we see less of what's going on over there, so the general population isn't pushing for the US to make a better effort over there
the nation generally has a weaker pulse on what's going on over there so we as a nation aren't able to do our part as well
@countablenewt this is all true! But media coverage is not reality; the tree falls in the forest even if CNN doesn't cover it.
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@evan Netanyahuh didn't care either way and peace for Gaza is a task that cannot be solved by the US alone. So I couldn't reply this time.
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@evan Netanyahuh didn't care either way and peace for Gaza is a task that cannot be solved by the US alone. So I couldn't reply this time.
@jwildeboer none of those points were the question.
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@evan I'm surprised you would even make the comparison. The evil Donald represents is specific and unique.
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@evan I'm surprised you would even make the comparison. The evil Donald represents is specific and unique.
@Gustodon so, you think for Gaza in particular, the difference between the world before Jan 2025 and after Jan 2025 is such a qualitative difference that it's unreasonable to even compare them?