@nazokiyoubinbou @Viss Exactly

[splinux@mastodon.uno]

@Viss run!

[zeri@chaos.social]

@Viss scandalous; that you even have to spell it out. Sheesz when has this stopped being the default position of people? Why aren't these fuckers affraid to voice their opinions? Freedom of fucking speech doesn't mean you have to associate with assholes.

[bosh@infosec.exchange]

@Viss excited!

[amar@infosec.exchange]

@Viss he got tired of security and went all in in sauce business

[cr0w@infosec.exchange]

@Viss I was going to make a joke about aliens in San Diego but with DHS the way it is, it would probably not land the way it did in my head.

[viss@mastodon.social]

@cR0w i think we're fortunate in that mastodon is not a place that 'the big important people' look at or care about, heh

[cr0w@infosec.exchange]

@Viss Yeah but I also didn't want people to get all worked up because they thought I was referring to migrants or something.

[viss@mastodon.social]

@cR0w yeah, good call. the people who are just looking for any possible reason to pick a fight do still exist here, sadly

[feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.net]

@Viss eject the warp core!

[scottwilson@infosec.exchange]

@Viss @cR0w THAT’S TOTALLY NOT TRUE!

[winterknight1337@infosec.exchange]

@Viss wat

[viss@mastodon.social]

@winterknight1337 so the av company wants the slides, and i guess they manually advance the slides as the speaker does? which seems like a boatload of extra work - sec-t and securityfest just use obs and imbibe the speakers laptop as another hdmi stream and just overlay it as another rectangle and it works fine and its easier, so i suggested that labscon tell their av company do to that next year

[winterknight1337@infosec.exchange]

@Viss yeah that’s jank. Idk my roommate is an AV guy so I hear his Opinions on AV setups all the time but there seems to be a few better ways to do it.

[viss@mastodon.social]

@winterknight1337 sec-t and securityfest have av folks in-house, but labscon hires out for it, and i guess the people they hired this time around were kinda the b-team, and now they're doing some damage control

[winterknight1337@infosec.exchange]

@Viss that definitely checks out

[bert_hubert@eupolicy.social]

@Viss I once hacked up something precisely because of these reasons. It is not good but it served me well for public dashboards for years. https://blog.powerdns.com/2014/12/11/powerdns-graphing-as-a-service?hs_amp=true

[davemwilburn@infosec.exchange]

@Viss

I don't have a firm idea of your options, but I wonder whether knowing more about your intended use case might help shape advice.

What kind of data are you looking to visualize, and how/where is it stored?

Is this for single user and as-needed, or something you might want running continuously or for multiple users?

I wonder if @hrbrmstr in particular has thoughts.

[viq@social.hackerspace.pl]

@Viss
Grafana doesn't require elasticsearch unless you're doing very specific things.
And Prometheus is a central place, you install exporters for it everywhere.
You can push metrics to influxdb.
There's netdata.
Cockpit has some of that.

I'm not sure what you want, I know some/a bunch of tools, if you're up for some back and forth.

[mr_daemon@untrusted.website]

@Viss I had similar concerns when I threw out netdata for Having Become Terrible(tm).

I didn't want to setup an elasticsearch cluster just to hold metrics.

It turns out grafana itself is fairly lightweight, and you can swap out prometheus server with something like VictoriaMetrics + vmagent, which lets you do push instead of pull depending on context, and also just normal endpoint scraping.

The datasource itself can either be transparently added as a prometheus one, or as a victoriametrics one (which nets you a few query language bonuses).

It's supremely low resource usage and does not consume much disk space either, to much of my surprise. None of it require a k8s cluster just to collect metrics either.

It's worth exploring, I think.

[fritzadalis@infosec.exchange]

@Viss
SQL Server Reporting Services