Was about to test the newly modified ATX PSU in my Quicksilver G4... before I realized it was missing the CMOS battery (I forgot what Apple calls this, but it's the 1/2 AA battery that lives on the mobo... whatever).
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Was about to test the newly modified ATX PSU in my Quicksilver G4... before I realized it was missing the CMOS battery (I forgot what Apple calls this, but it's the 1/2 AA battery that lives on the mobo... whatever). Why I bought a new battery for it, then realized the PSU was going to need replacing before it would work, and then removed the brand new battery I bought is a mystery to me. Maybe I thought I'd be holding onto it long enough to worry about the battery leaking a corroding the board? (iirc it was a lithium battery though, so honestly no idea what was going thru my head... or where I stored it in the meantime lmao)
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Was about to test the newly modified ATX PSU in my Quicksilver G4... before I realized it was missing the CMOS battery (I forgot what Apple calls this, but it's the 1/2 AA battery that lives on the mobo... whatever). Why I bought a new battery for it, then realized the PSU was going to need replacing before it would work, and then removed the brand new battery I bought is a mystery to me. Maybe I thought I'd be holding onto it long enough to worry about the battery leaking a corroding the board? (iirc it was a lithium battery though, so honestly no idea what was going thru my head... or where I stored it in the meantime lmao)
Going to try anyway... I have a whole pile of 3.7v batteries from "disposable" vapes, so why the hell not?
I don't have the system drive that came with it anymore (well I do, but I repurposed it for something... I think it's currently living in my modded PS2), so I popped in a random IDE drive I had lying around, and I'm going to try booting into 9.2.2 via USB using the OS9 Boot Kit from Macintosh Repository. The last time this G4 ran, that's what I used, so assuming this does in fact work, and I haven't wired it incorrectly (I have confirmed that nothing is going anywhere that it's going to cause damage, so the worst case scenario is that a wire is missing, not something like +12V going into a +5V rail), then there's no reason I shouldn't be able to boot OS9 from USB again.
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Going to try anyway... I have a whole pile of 3.7v batteries from "disposable" vapes, so why the hell not?
I don't have the system drive that came with it anymore (well I do, but I repurposed it for something... I think it's currently living in my modded PS2), so I popped in a random IDE drive I had lying around, and I'm going to try booting into 9.2.2 via USB using the OS9 Boot Kit from Macintosh Repository. The last time this G4 ran, that's what I used, so assuming this does in fact work, and I haven't wired it incorrectly (I have confirmed that nothing is going anywhere that it's going to cause damage, so the worst case scenario is that a wire is missing, not something like +12V going into a +5V rail), then there's no reason I shouldn't be able to boot OS9 from USB again.
Don't judge the soldering too harshly. I only have two hands, and no good helping hands or other work holding apparatus lol. The joints are good, but there was a lot of twisting to keep things together, so everything just looks like a massive glob of solder. Those 100V diodes have pretty massive terminals that are not nearly as flexible as the wires lol
Anyway, gonna go take a shower. So if I have made some obvious terrible mistake, hopefully somebody points it out before I get back and apply power.
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Don't judge the soldering too harshly. I only have two hands, and no good helping hands or other work holding apparatus lol. The joints are good, but there was a lot of twisting to keep things together, so everything just looks like a massive glob of solder. Those 100V diodes have pretty massive terminals that are not nearly as flexible as the wires lol
Anyway, gonna go take a shower. So if I have made some obvious terrible mistake, hopefully somebody points it out before I get back and apply power.
I almost made a very dumb mistake initially. This power supply has a second 4-pin connector that latches onto the P4, I guess for motherboards/chipsets that require 8-pin power?? I don't actually know. I bought this for a build with an LGA1150, when 2011v3 was already the new hotness, so maybe some higher end chips on that platform required it?
Anyway, I swapped the polarity on one of them, but without even thinking, I initially plugged in the other non-swapped connector. Of course that also means that the wires I cut and soldered (removing the pins without the correct tool is do-able, but also a huge PiTA, so I decided for the P4 power to just snip the wires) are going into an incorrectly keyed connector 🙄. I could've just done the same thing again to the other, but it was nothing a sharp knife couldn't correct lol. I also know from experience that the keying is easily bypassed with muscle+stupidity (a much younger me once managed to plug a 4-pin molex into an IDE drive upside down), but that feels a little too barbarian for what was for a long time, my "beige whale" (however uncharacteristically un-beige for the time period it was).
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I almost made a very dumb mistake initially. This power supply has a second 4-pin connector that latches onto the P4, I guess for motherboards/chipsets that require 8-pin power?? I don't actually know. I bought this for a build with an LGA1150, when 2011v3 was already the new hotness, so maybe some higher end chips on that platform required it?
Anyway, I swapped the polarity on one of them, but without even thinking, I initially plugged in the other non-swapped connector. Of course that also means that the wires I cut and soldered (removing the pins without the correct tool is do-able, but also a huge PiTA, so I decided for the P4 power to just snip the wires) are going into an incorrectly keyed connector 🙄. I could've just done the same thing again to the other, but it was nothing a sharp knife couldn't correct lol. I also know from experience that the keying is easily bypassed with muscle+stupidity (a much younger me once managed to plug a 4-pin molex into an IDE drive upside down), but that feels a little too barbarian for what was for a long time, my "beige whale" (however uncharacteristically un-beige for the time period it was).
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@tgeusch This is the uneasy feeling I had yesterday evening. I started writing the post this morning because I wanted to sleep on it. The original author did not write a bad or offensive post, and it reflects their experience so I respect that. Still, it feels more like a rant against a couple of people who behaved poorly or were unwilling to change FreeBSD because they believed there was a better way to do things.
Anyway, I am glad when people write these posts if they feel the need to. This way we get to see different points of view, and that helps all of us.
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@maartje that's an insult to first class. Looks more uncomfortable than our average second class seats.
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@maartje that's first class?!?
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@stefano thanks for your post.
I had read the post you're referencing yesterday, and had come away with a certain sense of unease. Thanks for putting some words to the unease, because after further reflection it really is the "battle" aspect where the unease came from. That, and the unnecessary and gratuitous side swipes like the "boomer" references.
Part of this may have come from the fact that I've got a bit of PTSD from an ex-manager who liked to make development tooling decisions based on what tool was "winning" in the marketplace, with only scant consideration if we already had working and suitable tooling...
At the end of the day, the ecosystem grows richer and stronger if we have alternatives large and small instead of the system to rule them all that would eventually need to be tossed into a volcano.
I say this as someone who uses Windows, macOS, several flavours of Linux, FreeBSD and OpenBSD at this time and would probably run an old Solaris box somewhere if he could find a use for it.
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@corpsmoderne merci! Ça reste quand même très très polluant, la consommation annuelle d'un foyer en quelques heures. @revesdespace
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@stefano Great post! I've been using #Linux #FreeBSD for about two decades and want to share my experiences. For context, Linux became my daily driver and I dabbled in FreeBSD on the side.
As a newcomer to both the #technology and #culture of #Linux and the BSDs, *back then* there was more toxicity. And by toxicity I mean abrasive and unhelpful responses ("RTFM!") or some kind of "l337" attitudes in various mailing lists and forums. This, of course, was before YouTube and Reddit, where the former mediums were more prevalent.
Some Linux distros were friendlier than others. In those days, the #Debian mailing lists and forums were a rough place for newcomers and it drove a lot of people away. I left the forums because of that. I rarely post to the mailing lists but for other reasons.
At some point, there was considerable effort to improve the etiquette in said mediums, particularly the mailing lists. Sure, some fiery disagreements can take place but overall people are friendly and welcoming.
FreeBSD, on the other hand, has been a more positive experience. Yes, there are people who are vocal about their contempt for Linux, but they aren't disrespectful to other people.
Having witnessed both communities grow and change over the years, there's definitely less toxicity and FreeBSD is still a more welcoming community.
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@mntmn omg OMG O M G YES
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@ModestinoSycamore E mi sarà tornato in mente per quello :)
