Learn to self host now.
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Learn to self host now. While you still can.
@vkc been meaning to get further into:
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@vkc any good guides to recommend to newbies?
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@daria Reasonable folks could have different opinions on this, but I consider self-hosting to be "I administer the server and manage the software", and I'm willing to include "someone else manages the hardware" as part of that.
So, IMO a VPS counts. But I'd consider whether that's necessary or if you can get away with running your stuff on an old PC should the need arise.
@vkc I thought about that, but I'd still consider hiding my public IP somehow when running my server from a PC in my home - maybe it's irrational fear of exposing the network though.
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@daria @vkc I would recommend VPS to start. I used to run my own radio station locally and uptime and opening your local LAN to attack are the main issues.
I think having a lot of open source servers open to attack is a hackers playground and most people aren't needy enough to do the opsec stuff. I know I struggled with it so have VPSes now.
I mean you have to know SOME of it but there is a whole level above of extra firewalls and DMZs etc. I don't have my NAS with a Dyndns anymore cos hacking attempts went through the roof!
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@vkc I thought about that, but I'd still consider hiding my public IP somehow when running my server from a PC in my home - maybe it's irrational fear of exposing the network though.
@daria there's some good tools for that, Pangolin comes to mind- I run one on a VPS so I can share a few things with folks for testing.
Of course, keeping it behind the firewall and just using a VPN is totally fine too.
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Learn to self host now. While you still can.
@vkc My setup if it helps anyone: An RPi 5 (16GB) with a Pimoroni NVMe Duo with two, 1TB SSDs. (One SSD is reserved for my backup.) Runs Raspbian Lite. Hosts my PiHole, Jellyfin, print server with plenty of room to expand to other services. Only accessible within my home network. Total cost was ~$300.
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Learn to self host now. While you still can.
@vkc running ingress/service swarm nodes through a cloudflare tunnel to a proxmox VM on an isolated VLAN, the way the Lord intended
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Learn to self host now. While you still can.
@vkc Did this. Can confirm, it's awesome.
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Learn to self host now. While you still can.
@vkc While it's occasionally frustrating, I overall love it. Use Immich and Emby and Syncthing and NextCloud every single day.
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Learn to self host now. While you still can.
Serious question: why do you say, so? Why now?
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@daria Reasonable folks could have different opinions on this, but I consider self-hosting to be "I administer the server and manage the software", and I'm willing to include "someone else manages the hardware" as part of that.
So, IMO a VPS counts. But I'd consider whether that's necessary or if you can get away with running your stuff on an old PC should the need arise.
I lean towards basing it on how tied you are to that VPS. If your VPS provider decides to suddenly double the price, or decides that your site is Bad™ and terminates it, how quickly can you migrate to a different host (whether VPS or home)?
Some of us don't have the luxury of much ISP competition, so I'm wary of running things from home, putting that connection at the mercy of our ISP's fickle whims.
(and tbh, I'm pretty tied to my VPS providers, and should take steps to untie those)
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@daria there's some good tools for that, Pangolin comes to mind- I run one on a VPS so I can share a few things with folks for testing.
Of course, keeping it behind the firewall and just using a VPN is totally fine too.
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Learn to self host now. While you still can.
I would say.... Learn to self‑host remotely.
If you’re American, the last thing you want is for everything to be stored locally on your computer and easily taken.
Due process is clearly out the window. Your rights to privacy and personal property are gone, too. People detained by ICE lose their phones and are never given them back. Your personal computer can also be seized.
Yes, host things yourself — but do it outside U.S. jurisdiction. That means avoiding large corporations like Google, Microsoft, and Amazon. Choose infrastructure overseas, where your government cannot simply claim your data or hardware.
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Learn to self host now. While you still can.
@vkc It's probably worth distinguishing between services to better scope the project, especially since various projects will require varying levels of public exposure and various kinds of resources.
I'd recommend starting people off with building their own firewall so they're less at risk from their own ISPs. This will be really good practice for setting up complex services like email.
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Learn to self host now. While you still can.
@vkc
I did. When it wasn't really necessary but just seemed interesting. Nothing fancy, just Nextcloud on an old desktop machine lurking in a garden shed. -
@yunohost awww thank you for the great compliment
❤️ - delighted to hear you are recommending my guides.And hello @Meznor ! I've been writing a blog series about how to self-host from the POV of a total newbie (that was me a year ago).
Part 1 is tech requirements: https://blog.elenarossini.com/a-newbies-guide-to-self-hosting-with-yunohost-part-1-reasons-requirements/
Part 2 is a step-by-step installation guide for the YunoHost system: https://blog.elenarossini.com/a-newbies-guide-to-self-hosting-with-yunohost-part-2-installation-setup/
and part 3 - coming tomorrow! - will show how to install an app. I'll be showcasing #NextCloud.
Feel free to reach out if you have any questions
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Learn to self host now. While you still can.
@vkc it's not the server that seems tough to me - it's the networking.
For now, I'm satisfied to keep my website on a hosting service in the EU (which was a very intentional choice).
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Serious question: why do you say, so? Why now?
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@vkc if PCs computing power are ment to be rented (you would not have an actual PC at home) i assume that yeu are talking about selfhosting and owning the hardware too. Interesting times ahead.
Edit: To add this https://hachyderm.io/@pheonix/115899759634576914
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Learn to self host now. While you still can.
@vkc Last year, I moved URLs and Mail server from AWS cloud to Hetzner and started to host my own Mailcow instance, all on baremetal. Maybe I will expand to more services.