Learn to self host now.

[vkc@linuxmom.net]

Learn to self host now. While you still can.

[vkc@linuxmom.net]

@daria Reasonable folks could have different opinions on this, but I consider self-hosting to be "I administer the server and manage the software", and I'm willing to include "someone else manages the hardware" as part of that.

So, IMO a VPS counts. But I'd consider whether that's necessary or if you can get away with running your stuff on an old PC should the need arise.

[meznor@mstdn.social]

@vkc any good guides to recommend to newbies?

[vkc@linuxmom.net]

@Meznor dozens of them, but it depends on what you want to self host.

For a lot of things, Nextcloud is a reasonable place to start, and their docs are pretty good. The community snap for Ubuntu, in particular, is very easy if you're new and just trying to get your feet wet.

https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/latest/admin_manual/installation/source_installation.html

[krypt3ia@infosec.exchange]

@vkc On Tor

[beaufils@mastodon.social]

@Meznor @vkc

Maybe you can start with @yunohost

https://yunohost.org/

[the_turtle@mastodon.sdf.org]

@vkc i did it for years. Server is still downstairs but I am not yet prepared to light it up again, but I did love IBM Domino.

[redliria@neopaquita.es]

@vkc if you dont know or dont want to bother with manually setting up nextcloud, or other things, it seems like https://yunohost.org helps with easily setting up a server and installing various services in it. just in case someone finds it interesting.

[a@852260996.91268476.xyz]

@redliria@neopaquita.es @vkc@linuxmom.net there is also https://cosmos-cloud.io/

[tonemilazzo@mastodon.cloud]

@vkc My Synology NAS is starting to buckle under the weight of all these containers

[locnar@bsd.network]

@vkc YES, and may the network remain free enough to let us have it be useful enough for it to matter.

[yunohost@toot.aquilenet.fr]

Hi @Meznor !

@elena 's guide will be invaluable if you are looking for a step-by-step installation guide: https://blog.elenarossini.com/a-newbies-guide-to-self-hosting-with-yunohost-part-1-reasons-requirements/

Happy self-hosting!

cc @beaufils
@vkc

[helloclippy@techhub.social]

@vkc I'm trying to self-host almost every service that allows self-hosting. It's not really hard, it just takes time to learn how to set up and maintain the servers (also, good hardware helps a lot with performance). I usually self-host with @nextcloud.

I'm thinking about hosting my own Mastodon instance now, but I need to upgrade my RAM because I already have a lot of servers running on my machine.

[yoshemitzu@mastodon.social]

@vkc For the (probably sizable) portion of users who will never, ever self-host, for a variety of reasons, what are the best ways to organize around and support self-hosted content with others?

[gbargoud@masto.nyc]

@vkc

Last year I had a much more elaborate self hosting setup before I upgraded my desktop and culled everything I didn't actually use.

Most notable was a printed page describing how to recover the system if it needed to be reimaged (or at least the steps you need until you can mount the backup and get to the more comprehensive playbook on the device).

[vkc@linuxmom.net]

@yoshemitzu computer clubs can be amazing. There's almost certainly someone nearby who is not only self hosting, but wants to help others do the same (or share resources about it). Finding or starting a computer club/Linux club/etc is probably the best way to go.

[santiago@mastodon.uy]

@vkc I manage a selfhosted server for over 10 years and also have the hardware at home. Anyway i always considered VPS a way of selfhosting, but over the years i changed my mind and consider that physically owning the hardware makes a big difference. Maybe there should be a different term that includes VPS hosting, because technically if you move away from say, google docs and setup a nextcloud server in which you control the server... you are selfhosting but also renting the hardware... if you have both things, the software and hardware under your control, it is also selfhosting but it is different from a VPS. Cannot be both the same thing, we need a term to clarify the ownership of the hardware because this matters, you are more independent or soverign about the hosting itself.

[shadowdancer@mstdn.social]

@vkc
I used to run a Nextcloud on a VPS but couldn't come up with any good use for it, so I ended up scrapping it.

My Synology NAS at home, accessible over Wireguard, fulfills my needs perfectly as I have no need for publicly accessible services.
@Meznor

[santiago@mastodon.uy]

@vkc if PCs computing power are ment to be rented (you would not have an actual PC at home) i assume that yeu are talking about selfhosting and owning the hardware too. Interesting times ahead.

Edit: To add this https://hachyderm.io/@pheonix/115899759634576914

[bezet234@mastodon.social]

@a @vkc @redliria
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing! I will try it at some point