Just a thought and theory about artificial gravity in #scifi, in shows like #StarTrek.
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@davidbcohen @lydiaconwell yes, I remember that because it was a first (I think). Even now, SFX struggle to do convincing zero g interior scenes. Expanse had some of the best space FX, but they had difficulty with real actors doing real things in zero g inside spaceships.
@seb321 @lydiaconwell Apollo 13 did in in real zero g (using filming on NASA’s ‘Vomit Comet’. Gravity did it with *masses* of CGI removal of harnesses and gimbals. But you are right, it is hard (and big money) to do convincingly.
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@lydiaconwell You'd need really tall walls to keep the pressure in, though.
@StarkRG What would happen without tall walls? Would the air rush out the sides?
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@lydiaconwell not sure about that. my planet has gravity, and the air still goes up for *miles*
@fishidwardrobe Yes, but isn't that air sitting on top of more air?
But now you mention that, the open-top ship might be a pillar of air going through space.
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@seb321 @lydiaconwell There's a lovely bit in one of Becky Chambers' novels where kids are playing in a park on a colony ship which has a structure with no artificial gravity.
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@lydiaconwell Would be nice to see an Enterprise convertible.
@nshr Yeah!
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@lydiaconwell I don't do a lot of writing in sci-fi, but when I do, I have a dark "shielded" observation deck for stargazing. The "shield" is just a gravity field dome a few feet think that pushes inward hard enough to make the air density drop to 0 over a few feet.
The quality of the stargazing on spaceships is maybe something I think about too much 🤔
@piper Interesting. By 'field' do you mean it's some kind of energy barrier rather than a solid substance?
And what's the bit about air density? Does that create gravity?
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@lydiaconwell you could, but imagine the occasional solar wind whistling across the top like breath over a bottle, or maybe a warp-speed version of having one window of your car rolled down. Maybe they just don't do it because the noise is too annoying. Picard (at the top of his voice): "I SAID MAKE IT SO! WILL SOMEBODY CLOSE THE ROOF!"
@brian_burton That's how Picard lots his hair. He was on the maiden voyage.
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@brian_burton That's how Picard lots his hair. He was on the maiden voyage.
@brian_burton Although, 'breath over a bottle' kinda sounds like it would be a pleasant sound.
It's could be a singing open-top ship.
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@lydiaconwell Both the cold and the radiation would be unbearable, though.
@tkarcher Well, you'd obviously have your fur coat and shades on too -- to complete the cool look.
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@tkarcher @lydiaconwell That was my first thought - cold, radiation and the danger of being obliterated by some unexpected microscopic lump of galactic/interstellar dust or debris while travelling at Ludicrous Speed(tm).
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Sorry to be "well actually", but atmosphere is also moved aways from planet by solar winds.
So you would have to have some sort of shield (which would probably be there either way) to stop electrons hitting your athmosphere.Also - you would probably get ton of radiation without any shield / shielding.
https://www.sciencenewstoday.org/what-are-the-effects-of-solar-wind-on-earths-atmosphere
@FandaSin Don't worry about the well-actually. It's all leading to interesting things.
Re. Open-top ship: One can dream ...
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Dave, @davew writes: "Coder is analogous to calling a chef a chopper." lol yeah i should call painters "brushers" or "watercolour devs" or something :-)
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@gloriouscow @lritter i don't know of any hash tags for those but i'd be astonished if there weren't any
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@gloriouscow @cr1901 For myself, with regards to dealing with the cognitive dissonance, of watching technologists I personally know and admire adopt LLMs (some of which are on here, too, and who I am somewhat embarrassed to say have seen my unhinged anti-AI posts 😅):
I think this has been much easier for me to deal with, because my personal observation for a long time has been that technologists have a very weak sense of ethics. Both in the sense of having good ethics that I agree with, and in the sense of having thought about the subject of ethics at all. Most technologists have not sat down and decided what their moral boundaries are, and what the relationship of their own morality is to the technology they use or develop. Even very skilled ones that I have learned a lot from. Most people are content to think that technologies are value-neutral, and are content to follow the trend of what everyone else is doing.
I have observed brilliant technologists, long before LLMs, shrug at the ethics of many other things, so for me it is entirely believable that they shrug at the ethics of this, too. I don't think many of these people are inherently morally bad, but I do think that they just don't care. This is bad because I do think that people just following the trend into widespread AI adoption is an ethically bad outcome. However, I also think that as AI backlash increases, if the pendulum swings back to anti-AI being the norm in software: they will follow as well.
It is also the sad truth that for minority women in many computer fields, we must work with brilliant peers who are not necessarily bad people, but who by way of their privileged position in life will say and do ignorant things. We must see someone saying something hurtful, but not make a fuss about it, because it's not worth the time of having to personally educate that person, to deal with the backlash, or to be labelled as a "confrontational" person. And we must do this as well, for brilliant colleagues and mentors and people we admire, and that we learn a lot from. So in that sense, I am very well practiced at this kind of cognitive dissonance - I do it in order to preserve a career.
I hope this is maybe a little helpful for you, though this is only my personal experience. And if you do take a break, I hope it is a restful and rejuvenating one!
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@gloriouscow @lritter also I recommend # macrophotography (and the various non-english equivalents) though fair warning it has the occasional closeup on insects. my wife introduced me to that one last night :)
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@gloriouscow here's the list I gave @lritter https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@aeva/115947337211705540
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