Is there a "professional" Mastodon client for high end users?
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@_elena @moira @cheeaun
It helps to "talk it through" to make sure we're clear WHAT is really needed:* There are cases were you get >100 notifications
* Grouping helps, mostly for favs and boosts, but not mentions
* reading many dozens of replies is fragmented, especially if you've got >1 popular post! (good problem to have right?)
* High level: I just want to follow the mentions more easilyI'd love to build an exploratory web page that take a post URL, parses all replies and provides a better way to browse the many replies but Same Origin Policy (which is a good thing!) makes that hard.
@scottjenson @_elena @moira would be interested to see how your exploratory web page would look like 👍
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@scottjenson the Mastodon web UI and Ivory now make it easier to parse through all the notifications. Like, I love how Mastodon now has a tab for DMs ("Private Mentions") so that helps a bit.
What would be a total game changer IMHO would be to have a segmentation in notifications... replies from everyone PLUS replies from people you follow (so I'd give priority to them). But I understand that it would add complexity...
@_elena @scottjenson that sounds like “Priority notifications” from some platforms or maybe X 🤔
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@scottjenson @_elena @moira would be interested to see how your exploratory web page would look like 👍
I'm just brainstorming here. I actually love the simplicity of @_elena 's idea: Have an option in the notifications view to filter by followers. It's a partial match for 'people that I think more important'.
Is it fully what I originally asked for? no. But it's a strong start and doesn't require any additional user work (other than picking the option)
For Phanpy, a dumb idea is to have "only Followers" under the "only Mentions" checkbox in the notifications view. It's clunky, and I think there is a better way to do it but I'm "kicking the can down the road" to give you idea of how Elena's idea could be shown. If there is a better approach, please suggest.
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I'm just brainstorming here. I actually love the simplicity of @_elena 's idea: Have an option in the notifications view to filter by followers. It's a partial match for 'people that I think more important'.
Is it fully what I originally asked for? no. But it's a strong start and doesn't require any additional user work (other than picking the option)
For Phanpy, a dumb idea is to have "only Followers" under the "only Mentions" checkbox in the notifications view. It's clunky, and I think there is a better way to do it but I'm "kicking the can down the road" to give you idea of how Elena's idea could be shown. If there is a better approach, please suggest.
@scottjenson thank you for expanding on my thoughts Scott 🙏
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I'm just brainstorming here. I actually love the simplicity of @_elena 's idea: Have an option in the notifications view to filter by followers. It's a partial match for 'people that I think more important'.
Is it fully what I originally asked for? no. But it's a strong start and doesn't require any additional user work (other than picking the option)
For Phanpy, a dumb idea is to have "only Followers" under the "only Mentions" checkbox in the notifications view. It's clunky, and I think there is a better way to do it but I'm "kicking the can down the road" to give you idea of how Elena's idea could be shown. If there is a better approach, please suggest.
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@scottjenson “people I follow” vs. “All mentions” ?
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I'm just brainstorming here. I actually love the simplicity of @_elena 's idea: Have an option in the notifications view to filter by followers. It's a partial match for 'people that I think more important'.
Is it fully what I originally asked for? no. But it's a strong start and doesn't require any additional user work (other than picking the option)
For Phanpy, a dumb idea is to have "only Followers" under the "only Mentions" checkbox in the notifications view. It's clunky, and I think there is a better way to do it but I'm "kicking the can down the road" to give you idea of how Elena's idea could be shown. If there is a better approach, please suggest.
@scottjenson @moira @_elena does it mean that only mentions from followings matter? Or all types of notifications?
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@scottjenson @moira @_elena does it mean that only mentions from followings matter? Or all types of notifications?
@cheeaun @scottjenson @moira @_elena
Change "Mentions - ALL / PRIVATE" to "Mentions - ALL / FOLLOWING / PRIVATE" so you can filter the view to only see mentions from people who you are following?
That seems a sensible plan for those who get a ton of notifications?
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@cheeaun @scottjenson @moira @_elena
Change "Mentions - ALL / PRIVATE" to "Mentions - ALL / FOLLOWING / PRIVATE" so you can filter the view to only see mentions from people who you are following?
That seems a sensible plan for those who get a ton of notifications?
@james @cheeaun @scottjenson @moira yes precisely what I meant, thanks… if there was a way to filter mentions with a dedicated tab for replies by people you follow, it would help when popular accounts get 200+ mentions in a day
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@james @cheeaun @scottjenson @moira yes precisely what I meant, thanks… if there was a way to filter mentions with a dedicated tab for replies by people you follow, it would help when popular accounts get 200+ mentions in a day
@_elena @cheeaun @scottjenson @moira I *think* that is what Twitter used to offer verified users. (I was one, but Elon took it away.)
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@_elena @cheeaun @scottjenson @moira I *think* that is what Twitter used to offer verified users. (I was one, but Elon took it away.)
@james ah yes you’re right! I was also verified and it made things easier @cheeaun @scottjenson @moira
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@scottjenson “people I follow” vs. “All mentions” ?
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@scottjenson @_elena @cheeaun okay so i think i'm confused here, because, well, in web view, it's like... this sounds like what you want? you can filter by people you follow and/or people who follow you, separately, and those go to the filtered notifications inbox.
or do you mean filter by _number_ of followers? because that's definitely not a thing.
(is this not supported in the mobile app yet? maybe it's something you have to set up via webview?)
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@scottjenson @_elena @cheeaun okay so i think i'm confused here, because, well, in web view, it's like... this sounds like what you want? you can filter by people you follow and/or people who follow you, separately, and those go to the filtered notifications inbox.
or do you mean filter by _number_ of followers? because that's definitely not a thing.
(is this not supported in the mobile app yet? maybe it's something you have to set up via webview?)
Yes I found that but my understanding is that it's a setting so all notifications follow this pattern. I'll looking for something more dynamic, e.g. most of this time I view all notifications but when things get a bit crazy I can turn this filter on to cope with the chaos
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@scottjenson @moira @cheeaun filtered notifications require extra clicks and are hidden behind a tab… I missed important messages during FOSDEM because they ended up in « filtered notifications » … which are completely hidden in Ivory on iOS.
I was proposing something closer to Twitter 1.0 (RIP) where mentions are split in two tabs: ALL mentions and Following (aka mentions from accounts you follow)
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@stefano @zelu and some don't allow you to even put the already made coffee on the table so that you won't block others... Because, you know, you do the extra work, but still, the owner should be paid 😅😅
A true story, happened to me once in Rome..
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@kappazeta @thunderpussycat Non so come sei messo coi mezzi ma volendo puoi dare un occhio nella provincia di Varese. Tipo Brusimpiano, Lavena Ponte Tresa, Porto Ceresio…
Ovviamente dovresti avere a disposizione un’auto per spostarti fino a Lugano
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@stefano 🤞
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Cinque euro in più a pacchetto per finanziare prevenzione e sanità pubblica.
La campagna #5EuroControIlFumo propone una misura semplice: aumentare il prezzo delle sigarette per ridurre il consumo e sostenere il Servizio sanitario nazionale.
Una scelta che riguarda salute, costi sociali e responsabilità collettiva.
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@pikesley fun fact, you can combine this with the «any machine is a smoke machine if you operate it wrong enough», doubly more so when considering that people cry when smoke gets in their eyes.
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@evan To be clear, is 'it' in the above always the local browser as opposed to the server a.example (proxy-requesting on the unauthenticated user's behalf).
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@eniko wait is this something you folks are designing or did somebody just made unofficial apparel?
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@chillicampari @evan
That was my concern exactly (I voted "yes, but"):
e.g followers-only content shouldn't be public just because a follower's instance has access to it. In a perfect world this would have been end to end encrypted.
