I don't think people here realized yet how much development has sped up in the "atmosphere*"

[liaizon@social.wake.st]

I have been watching both spaces for many years (almost the beginning of fedi) and Bluesky when it was just a discord room before Jay was chosen. There is a major shift going on where some of the ideas that have been talked about in various shapes across various communities are being implemented with nice interfaces and able to be used by "normal people" aka not people who know how to patch their Linux kernal.

[liaizon@social.wake.st]

Shout out to WAFRN (@admin) and @anewsocial for taking the uncomfortable position of straddling the space inbetween protocols. I think this is truly the strategy that is going to be needed if we want to "win" the push towards an open social web for the whole internet.

[sun@shitposter.world]

@liaizon we have always been able to do that. We are just strangled by mastodon dominance and what it accepts

[liaizon@social.wake.st]

@sun being able to do something and there being a clear path to the thing in practice are two different things.

[sun@shitposter.world]

@liaizon I don’t know what it is but I don’t think it’s technical that is limiting it here. But I think a big factor is the dominant toolset there is a lot better than ours and we’ll never get over the inertia

[liaizon@social.wake.st]

I will say here again I am very much on team fediverse and the anarchist anticapitalist free culture side of networks. Bluesky has some "help" with dirty money vc bullshit. There are many things Bluesky (the company) is doing that is awful (like verifying ICE ffs and deleting Palestinian accounts) and those are things I have been continuously pointing out as well.

[ruben@friendship.quest]

@liaizon@wake.st I think that development is good for both. In my mind the fediverse will never be a replacement for mainstream social media, but a strong counter-culture presence. On the other hand, I feel atmosphere does have aspirations to replace social media (along with a lot of its harms).

If the outcome is Fedi as space B + Atmosphere as mainstream social media instead of Fedi as space B + Twitter/Instagram/etc as mainstream media, I think we've had a win.

[liaizon@social.wake.st]

Bluesky also has its roots in other anarchist alternative networks. It takes a lot of inspiration from the core architects being involved in SSB (Secure Scuttlebutt)

[nice-nigger@nicecrew.digital]

fuk is u talmbout cuh

[dansup@mastodon.social]

@liaizon In theory yes, but in the real world, I've heard from many people that Pixelfed is the best photo sharing platform on AtProto (via Bridgy) and similar for Loops.

When you try to do everything, the experience is limited, and that's quite evident from the feedback and experiences I've had.