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@drizzy @pfr this ^^^. It's the most practical way of leveraging list in day to day work, and once you're indoctrinated, you see it everywhere.
And of course https://mitp-content-server.mit.edu/books/content/sectbyfn/books_pres_0/6515/sicp.zip/index.html is a bible for every LISP enthusiast.
@inecas @drizzy @pfr @beardie_jamie
> And of course https://
mitp-content-server.mit.edu/books/content/sectbyfn/books_pres_0/6515/sicp.zip/index.html is a bible for every LISP enthusiast.I replied before seeing this, but I feel it validates my point rather well. :-D
I bailed after the introductory page, which was gobbledegook to me. Seriously, I read fast, I read a lot, and the only book that I bounced off this hard was my first Patrick O'Brian novel, with its over-page-length single sentences.
The only readable comprehensible Lisp book I've seen I could follow is one I never managed to buy on dead tree.
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Sup Fedi,
I want to get indoctrinated into the world of #LISP
I am not a programmer, nor software developer. I am familiar with basic shell scripting and a little bit of C but that's about it.
Where does the internet church of Lisp congregate and how do I become a member?
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Thanks> Where does the internet church of Lisp congregate
If anywhere, Hacker News. :-)
It's owned by Paul Graham, one of the most famous Lisp advocates.
https://paulgraham.com/avg.html
HN is implemented in his dialect of Lisp, called Arc. (On top of Steel Bank Common Lisp.)
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The illuminated ones also recommend learning Emacs first. I have tried. Repeatedly. I find it totally impenetrable, too. The only things that helped at all in any way were the excellent macOS version, Aquamacs, now sadly effectively moribund:
And for non-Mac-users, the mad guru of this stuff, Xah Lee, who created ErgoEmacs:
It makes GNU Emacs kind of usable, but, for the Enlightened Ones, you're getting to know an impure, polluted vision.
But it's comprehensible. May work for you.@lproven @drwho @beardie_jamie I suppose I should look at Emacs. But I'll always be a vim user 😉
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@inecas @drizzy @pfr @beardie_jamie
> And of course https://
mitp-content-server.mit.edu/books/content/sectbyfn/books_pres_0/6515/sicp.zip/index.html is a bible for every LISP enthusiast.I replied before seeing this, but I feel it validates my point rather well. :-D
I bailed after the introductory page, which was gobbledegook to me. Seriously, I read fast, I read a lot, and the only book that I bounced off this hard was my first Patrick O'Brian novel, with its over-page-length single sentences.
The only readable comprehensible Lisp book I've seen I could follow is one I never managed to buy on dead tree.
@lproven @drizzy @pfr @beardie_jamie Yes, it's not a light reading, and much more about the concepts on how (no only) lisp is implemented, rather than just use it. But the question was about the church of Lisp, and needs to be mentioned as one of the holy books. And once one gets over the initial bar, it's actually quite eye-opening.
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Sup Fedi,
I want to get indoctrinated into the world of #LISP
I am not a programmer, nor software developer. I am familiar with basic shell scripting and a little bit of C but that's about it.
Where does the internet church of Lisp congregate and how do I become a member?
Please boost
Thanks@pfr I think Land of Lisp is still a good introduction https://nostarch.com/lisp.htm
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@lproven @drwho @beardie_jamie I suppose I should look at Emacs. But I'll always be a vim user 😉
You are pretty much going to have to convert.
(I'm neutral: I can't stand either of them, myself. I am still sad nobody got the joke in this headline:
https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/17/tilde_text_editor/ )
There is an Emacs Vi mode called EVIL or VILE or something. I think it's a joke, but this tells you all you need to know about how Emacs folks tend to think about it.
For reference, this will tell you a _lot_ about Emacs and indeed Lisp:
https://web.stanford.edu/class/cs81n/command.txt
It's why I tried to learn it. IMHO you _NEED_ to read this.
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@lproven @drizzy @pfr @beardie_jamie Yes, it's not a light reading, and much more about the concepts on how (no only) lisp is implemented, rather than just use it. But the question was about the church of Lisp, and needs to be mentioned as one of the holy books. And once one gets over the initial bar, it's actually quite eye-opening.
@inecas @drizzy @pfr @beardie_jamie
I have a vision of myself as a toddler, not tall enough to quite reach that bar you mention, so I can't _quite_ see over it.
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@inecas @drizzy @pfr @beardie_jamie
> And of course https://
mitp-content-server.mit.edu/books/content/sectbyfn/books_pres_0/6515/sicp.zip/index.html is a bible for every LISP enthusiast.I replied before seeing this, but I feel it validates my point rather well. :-D
I bailed after the introductory page, which was gobbledegook to me. Seriously, I read fast, I read a lot, and the only book that I bounced off this hard was my first Patrick O'Brian novel, with its over-page-length single sentences.
The only readable comprehensible Lisp book I've seen I could follow is one I never managed to buy on dead tree.
@lproven @inecas @drizzy @beardie_jamie lol, the land of lisp looks awesome!
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Sup Fedi,
I want to get indoctrinated into the world of #LISP
I am not a programmer, nor software developer. I am familiar with basic shell scripting and a little bit of C but that's about it.
Where does the internet church of Lisp congregate and how do I become a member?
Please boost
Thanks@pfr Welcome! I suggest the resources on the Common Lisp Cookbook: https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook/
Check its editors page. ICL is a sane REPL for the terminal and the browser that allows to write and run some code.
The community is very much on /r/lisp and Discord (https://discord.gg/hhk46CE)
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Sup Fedi,
I want to get indoctrinated into the world of #LISP
I am not a programmer, nor software developer. I am familiar with basic shell scripting and a little bit of C but that's about it.
Where does the internet church of Lisp congregate and how do I become a member?
Please boost
Thanks@pfr If you are interested in Lisp I recommend learning it as a long term project. It's worth giving a good look to both Common Lisp and Scheme so that you can decide what you like.
As for where Lispers congregate, if you prefer forum platforms you may have a look at this new community:
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I will not be investigating further on either of these two scams. (The other guy is also still on the line, just emailed me today wondering why I'd ghosted him... I could still mess with him.)
I could still contact the issuing bank of the check. Someone wrote a bad check using their institution, and clearance is still pending. The crime is still in progress.
But the thing is, I don't have access to complete the case. The banks and LE DO. I don't have the power to do anything with any information I do dig up, and any problems I could cause these two by scambaiting them, risks retaliation that I can't protect myself from because they know who I am.
Further, I don't have the time and energy to do this. I'm disabled and looking for work (again). I have wasted enough time on these as it is.
I'd be eager and willing to offer my full cooperation to an investigation if I had the backing of institutions bigger than me. I've got some skills even (unlike the seniors the CU said had the worst end of it, which is true.)
But I can't go all Kitboga rogue on their asses. That's a full time job.
Meanwhile, .gov will put up a website!
https://www.helpwithmybank.gov/help-topics/fraud-scams/fraud/check-fraud/fraud-cashiers-check.html
Anyhow, I've covered my own ass by making the call and lodging a record with my bank. I wasn't any part of this scam. I won't spend the money, and I won't finish the work.
I guess I'll reply to her telling her I will not be sending her any refunds, as we have a contract (I have her signature, even if it's fake). I will not tell her she is suss. Let's see what she does.
I'm placing my bets on escalation to heavy manipulation and verbal abuse? As if I didn't have enough to worry about.
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@GossiTheDog Ah yes the company that is known for it's ethics: https://wiki.icelist.is/index.php/Accenture
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"Karen" might not even be in the US. But there is a CRIME IN PROGRESS that I reported the moment I confirmed it was a crime. The check hasn't even cleared yet. (It won't.) I have her pending in email waiting for my reply, waiting for me to send a cashier' check to a REAL US address! (It's residential.) I could say or do anything to keep her on the hook while more evidence is gathered, that between these two financial institutions, at least has a chance to make "her" job more difficult. And at best, could catch someone picking up the drop.
I could even do half this investigation myself. I already have with the low-hanging OSINT data! It's not *hard,* just no one has the will.
Hell, under these circumstances, "Karen" wouldn't even need to disguise the names and addresses. Because no one cares. It's just open season out there when it comes to fraud.
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