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> I'm quite positively surprised at all the good social experiences people have.
Really?! This surprises me, but then perhaps I am biased precisely because I am one of those people.
Don't get me wrong. I am one of those people too. My social experience is a cozy village, and I love to be on the microblogs, roam the timelines.
But there is also an ugly underbelly to our onlline cultures that is not properly acknowledged and discussed, let alone deep reflection on how to bring improvements. The fediverse is first of all a technosphere. Tech is created, rolled out, and culture must adapt accordingly. Externalities and unwanted side-effects are to be dealt with later, which is not easy in an app-centric fediverse where individual devs are in the lead of making feature decisions.
As an aside see this toot: https://social.coop/@smallcircles/116109447243110037
Just below the warm and fluffy surface of the cozy fedi culture there are parasocial tendencies and behavioral anti-patterns that make fedi a de-facto unsafe environment. If you don't know the mine fields and eggshells to walk on in certain areas, you may face harsh unexpected consequences, fedidrama.
We can do much better.
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@smallcircles it's a manageable distraction
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@smallcircles "I experience the Fediverse as the original promise of the internet" : genuine human connections without the interference of corporate interests (or algorithmic manipulation)
@_elena I totally agree with you.
Though I perceive existential threats that I have been posting heavily about the last 2 weeks. These exist for many years and are well-known, but are getting pretty urgent now. They hold risks we have not dealt with properly. Allow me to cross-ref to what I just posted in reply to @neil ..
https://social.coop/@smallcircles/116159137251812698
The current fediverse is a marvel. What will the future fediverse be? That is the question.
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@smallcircles Growing town in a country that could do with better public transport options (i.e. more natural links between the different applications).
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@smallcircles Growing town in a country that could do with better public transport options (i.e. more natural links between the different applications).
@brad yes, I agree. In particular the natural and organic aspect. Revolution by evolution. Thank you.
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@smallcircles it's a manageable distraction
@scottrochester that made me laugh. Thanks. 😃
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@RolloTreadway ah, nice. I did not know that song, ha ha.
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@smallcircles I had to think for a moment but I think I'd call it a space station. A place kinda out if this world ( as it's in direct violation of the corporate model of profit above all else). Where all kinds of fabulous aliens can exchange tips, ideas and convers on many different subjects in a mostly calm and civil manner while they wait to refuel ;)
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@smallcircles people obsessed with US politics when they don't even live there. That's how I experience it.
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@smallcircles
Cozy Arkham Asylum. -
Nice. They certainly nailed the atmosphere. Listening now.
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@smallcircles people obsessed with US politics when they don't even live there. That's how I experience it.
@maikel I think you can't blame them with US being a global superpower and all, and how the world order is radically changed by all this. Difficult times, and it seeps very broadly in all timelines. I think in other social media it will be no different.
If you'd curate your feed to only include people who deliberately shun the political debate, might bring good improvement I think.
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@smallcircles A strange fascinating party with lots of different pods with wildly different conversations or lectures or readings or music or gallery shows or cooking or comedies or what have you all going on, and everyone welcomes you in.
@pattykimura
This is not far from my own experience but I would just add the Fediverse is obviously supposed to generate other places of interest with new unknown forces and expressions.
So, to my previous description with an analogy to the harbour, https://gotosocial.social/@nelfan/statuses/01KJN0JGW7EES2ANFKWBB0ZRJF, I would add this is obviously a starting point for those who have good ideas to go further and find other convenient places to build new harbours.
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@maikel I think you can't blame them with US being a global superpower and all, and how the world order is radically changed by all this. Difficult times, and it seeps very broadly in all timelines. I think in other social media it will be no different.
If you'd curate your feed to only include people who deliberately shun the political debate, might bring good improvement I think.
@smallcircles I don't see any mention of US politics at all, in Instagram. Not once.
People can be worse than algorithms.
I'm not saying elsewhere is better. What I'm saying is the fediverse is no utopia.
My feed is very carefully curated, and yet it still filters in.
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@smallcircles I had to think for a moment but I think I'd call it a space station. A place kinda out if this world ( as it's in direct violation of the corporate model of profit above all else). Where all kinds of fabulous aliens can exchange tips, ideas and convers on many different subjects in a mostly calm and civil manner while they wait to refuel ;)
@Iloo travelers on an adventure together shuttling back and forth. I like your description.
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@smallcircles "I experience the Fediverse as the original promise of the internet" : genuine human connections without the interference of corporate interests (or algorithmic manipulation)
@_elena @smallcircles it's like going back to USENET and I love it.
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@smallcircles I don't see any mention of US politics at all, in Instagram. Not once.
People can be worse than algorithms.
I'm not saying elsewhere is better. What I'm saying is the fediverse is no utopia.
My feed is very carefully curated, and yet it still filters in.
@maikel certainly not an utopia. In a chain of links weaving a social fabric 😃 I will pass on this post quote..
https://social.coop/@smallcircles/116159153490621069
> My feed is very carefully curated, and yet it still filters in.
Yes, the tools we have can be much improved to offer more support for Personal social networking.
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...as the village cafe.
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@smallcircles Wonderful place to learn.
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@smallcircles @benroyce Toronto.
A diverse patchwork of cozy neighbourhoods all cobbled together to become a bustling city.
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@johannab No, not at all snarky. 💕
What is so interesting is to discern between the technical and social, and I think that most people have a very functional-technical perspective of what it means to communicate online, so to say. Consider it merely as extra channels to interact with others, more choice to connect.
But of course our online social network is much more than merely a channel, and we have to 'project our social' somehow over these thin copper and fiberglass wires, while we try to make sense and interpret the social signals that come from other remote places.
I think we underestimate the impact of communicating online, and the narrow 'social bandwidth' that our current networking tools support. Then we translate online situations to how we would behave offline and get wrong expectations, misconceptions, and subequenctly miscommunications.
We are still all youngers online, still all learning the ropes, while we do social networking offline for 1,000's of years already.
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Awesome!
I hope my response didn't come off snarky, as that wasn't how I meant it - at worst I intended to be a bit pedantic. And relatable analogies are *always* at my fingertips when talking to the inexperienced or "non-tech" social network users, for sure.
But *eventually* we need to draw people in to a little more media- and tech-literate understanding.
I'm bookmarking your blog post, thanks - this is a topic in my current academic modules and my hoped-for masters capstone
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What I particularly like in your definition, is that it makes clear that "fediverse" by itself indicates a pure technosphere. It enables social communication, and merely facilitates it. What people do on that channel, the way they communicate and how they interact with others then determines the social experience.
SX starts to consider a social experience from the most personal perspective, where a person has individual needs wrt their online participation. Then using the "Pyramid of perspective" this scale up to consider inter-personal relationships, and at the top of the pyramid and at the largest scale we shape the constructs of society together.
(Note that SX is a universal solution development methodology, even though it starts with a focus on social web and software development.)
See also: https://coding.social/blog/reimagine-social/#pyramid-of-perspective
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That is a good, more matter of fact characterization to all the analogies indeed. Thank you.
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Other: loosely-bound meta-network of more tightly-bound community or topical networks.
I *describe my experience* using all kinds of analogies such as the other options in this poll.
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@Curry @theraccoonbytes I was thinking of privately reaching out to Casey and PJ first (Kevin has barely used the instance) to see what their plans are for the future...
and then maybe try to assemble a group of volunteers to see if anyone is interested in helping out with hosting, moderation, onboarding, community engagement, etc.
For now whenever I can I browse their local timeline and interact with people to make them feel seen and valued...
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@draNgNon thanks, some very good food for thought.
I think the crucial point is that we do not know and do not offer proper ways to deal with different modes of communication, esp. if the only medium channel constitutes a stream of sticky notes, such as we have here in this #microblogging space.
On the first point, when is something an #EchoChamber vs. a healthy interest area, I think depends how well one is able to cross the 'membranes' of all the various social contexts and information spaces one navigates online, as it were.
There should be a place for 'influencing' to an extent if only to reach your crowd and build community and such. But all in balance and proportion and clear social context preferably. Non-profits and #activist groups want to influence, we may want to be informed.
To the last point. There's urgency to address the dark world situation, and either organize or lose. #SX defines #CALMculture as a way to engage in constructive #activism..
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@theraccoonbytes @_elena Are there specific measures I can be taking to help keep our beloved #forkiverse alive? Besides being active myself?
