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> I'm quite positively surprised at all the good social experiences people have.
Really?! This surprises me, but then perhaps I am biased precisely because I am one of those people.
Don't get me wrong. I am one of those people too. My social experience is a cozy village, and I love to be on the microblogs, roam the timelines.
But there is also an ugly underbelly to our onlline cultures that is not properly acknowledged and discussed, let alone deep reflection on how to bring improvements. The fediverse is first of all a technosphere. Tech is created, rolled out, and culture must adapt accordingly. Externalities and unwanted side-effects are to be dealt with later, which is not easy in an app-centric fediverse where individual devs are in the lead of making feature decisions.
As an aside see this toot: https://social.coop/@smallcircles/116109447243110037
Just below the warm and fluffy surface of the cozy fedi culture there are parasocial tendencies and behavioral anti-patterns that make fedi a de-facto unsafe environment. If you don't know the mine fields and eggshells to walk on in certain areas, you may face harsh unexpected consequences, fedidrama.
We can do much better.
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@smallcircles it's a manageable distraction
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@smallcircles "I experience the Fediverse as the original promise of the internet" : genuine human connections without the interference of corporate interests (or algorithmic manipulation)
@_elena I totally agree with you.
Though I perceive existential threats that I have been posting heavily about the last 2 weeks. These exist for many years and are well-known, but are getting pretty urgent now. They hold risks we have not dealt with properly. Allow me to cross-ref to what I just posted in reply to @neil ..
https://social.coop/@smallcircles/116159137251812698
The current fediverse is a marvel. What will the future fediverse be? That is the question.
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@smallcircles Growing town in a country that could do with better public transport options (i.e. more natural links between the different applications).
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@smallcircles Growing town in a country that could do with better public transport options (i.e. more natural links between the different applications).
@brad yes, I agree. In particular the natural and organic aspect. Revolution by evolution. Thank you.
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@smallcircles it's a manageable distraction
@scottrochester that made me laugh. Thanks. 😃
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@RolloTreadway ah, nice. I did not know that song, ha ha.
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@smallcircles I had to think for a moment but I think I'd call it a space station. A place kinda out if this world ( as it's in direct violation of the corporate model of profit above all else). Where all kinds of fabulous aliens can exchange tips, ideas and convers on many different subjects in a mostly calm and civil manner while they wait to refuel ;)
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@smallcircles people obsessed with US politics when they don't even live there. That's how I experience it.
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Cozy Arkham Asylum. -
Nice. They certainly nailed the atmosphere. Listening now.
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@smallcircles people obsessed with US politics when they don't even live there. That's how I experience it.
@maikel I think you can't blame them with US being a global superpower and all, and how the world order is radically changed by all this. Difficult times, and it seeps very broadly in all timelines. I think in other social media it will be no different.
If you'd curate your feed to only include people who deliberately shun the political debate, might bring good improvement I think.
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@smallcircles A strange fascinating party with lots of different pods with wildly different conversations or lectures or readings or music or gallery shows or cooking or comedies or what have you all going on, and everyone welcomes you in.
@pattykimura
This is not far from my own experience but I would just add the Fediverse is obviously supposed to generate other places of interest with new unknown forces and expressions.
So, to my previous description with an analogy to the harbour, https://gotosocial.social/@nelfan/statuses/01KJN0JGW7EES2ANFKWBB0ZRJF, I would add this is obviously a starting point for those who have good ideas to go further and find other convenient places to build new harbours.
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@maikel I think you can't blame them with US being a global superpower and all, and how the world order is radically changed by all this. Difficult times, and it seeps very broadly in all timelines. I think in other social media it will be no different.
If you'd curate your feed to only include people who deliberately shun the political debate, might bring good improvement I think.
@smallcircles I don't see any mention of US politics at all, in Instagram. Not once.
People can be worse than algorithms.
I'm not saying elsewhere is better. What I'm saying is the fediverse is no utopia.
My feed is very carefully curated, and yet it still filters in.
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@smallcircles I had to think for a moment but I think I'd call it a space station. A place kinda out if this world ( as it's in direct violation of the corporate model of profit above all else). Where all kinds of fabulous aliens can exchange tips, ideas and convers on many different subjects in a mostly calm and civil manner while they wait to refuel ;)
@Iloo travelers on an adventure together shuttling back and forth. I like your description.
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@smallcircles "I experience the Fediverse as the original promise of the internet" : genuine human connections without the interference of corporate interests (or algorithmic manipulation)
@_elena @smallcircles it's like going back to USENET and I love it.
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@smallcircles I don't see any mention of US politics at all, in Instagram. Not once.
People can be worse than algorithms.
I'm not saying elsewhere is better. What I'm saying is the fediverse is no utopia.
My feed is very carefully curated, and yet it still filters in.
@maikel certainly not an utopia. In a chain of links weaving a social fabric 😃 I will pass on this post quote..
https://social.coop/@smallcircles/116159153490621069
> My feed is very carefully curated, and yet it still filters in.
Yes, the tools we have can be much improved to offer more support for Personal social networking.
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...as the village cafe.
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@smallcircles Wonderful place to learn.
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@smallcircles @benroyce Toronto.
A diverse patchwork of cozy neighbourhoods all cobbled together to become a bustling city.
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@smallcircles No, I love ghosts, they have the coolest stories, and I don't have to deal with those pesky living people with their racism and their hate.
I also love villages, they're livable, they're walkable and the only real problem is being stuck out in the middle of nowhere, and that downside doesn't really apply online.
And bustling: Every place is full of people I want to hear from.I don't have the time to hear from all of them, but that's just the FOMO speaking.
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@androcat aha, do you mean you find it hard to get information and connections around your interest areas?
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@maikel that is a great list of points. I won't boost, or you get more of what you don't want, but you might consider filing a fediverse idea..
https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas/issues
Some of these can be mitigated by nurturing cultural habits.
> 6. The worst one: people use other names instead to call them so filters don't work.
This one in particular. Besides references to toxic people you see it too with folks saying Gaggle, GMAFIA, Farcebook, etc.
Often these names are used in someone's "activism package", but using them is imho more performative to an existing in-group than that they constructively appeal to others and persuade them to join the good cause.
I posted something related to this today. See CALM culture in..
The acronym also litterally means that our social media culture becomes calmer, and there's better separation to where there's activism, and where the natural talk of the town.
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@smallcircles Cosy neighbourhood in a bustling city.
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@smallcircles Bustling ghost village ftw
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@smallcircles meadow where old man yells at clouds
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...to guess what's on a picture, and add it, so when you tell them "I'm not interested in Trump" it actually filters him forever.
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@smallcircles the problems are
1. Pics of Trump face with no trump text, so filters don't work.
2. Pics of Elon face with...see point 1. Like that all other US rage-producing club of billionaires or MAGAs.
3. Using tags as "USpol" requires manual intervention, nobody does.
4. Mastodon follows BOOSTS of whoever you add by default, instead of making those opt-in
5. People don't use alt-text so filters at least filter Trump face becaus eof the alt-text.
6. The worst one: people use other names instead to call them so filters don't work.What commercial media gets right:
1. They have the power to guess...
