This is anecdotal, but every time I say I have a bad feeling about something
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@hacks4pancakes as a Brit who used to work in US tech and lived in Seattle years ago, I just assumed people got angry when I pointed this out because I was an outsider...
A bit like Baz Luhrmann's epic song, Sunscreen, every word of this thread rings true 💯
@not_a_label @hacks4pancakes Accept certain inalienable truths: prices will rise, politicians will philander, you too will get old-- and when you do, you'll fantasize that when you were young prices were reasonable, politicians were noble and children respected their elders
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This is anecdotal, but every time I say I have a bad feeling about something
(See: Elon and companies, alleged grassy knoll ear shots, LLMs, cryptocurrency, Gamergate, project 2025)
And I get tech people yelling at me in the comments,
Within two years I’m proven extremely right.
@hacks4pancakes welcome to my ENTIRE FUCKING LIFE. Yep, I'm yelling at you because I've had the same damn thing for decades.
Case in point, at $JOB-1 I raised concerns about an AWS UAE project that had no redundancy or regional redundancy. "Okay, and what if Israel decides to start shit and bombs the power infrastructure?"
Yeah.
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@mrrmot @cford @hacks4pancakes
Regarding 'Why do we think "debate" is the right way to explore points of view?',
If someone knows of practical workable other ways of resolving our differences of opinion, I'd love to hear about them.
Yes, I'm a man. And I have an ego that gets out of control at times. But I strive to understand other people's perspectives, and to give them appropriate "weight" — which might not be much. I do find myself being wrong at times, and strive to correct my mistakes.
@JeffGrigg @mrrmot @cford @hacks4pancakes Debate is not 'practical' or 'workable'.
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This is anecdotal, but every time I say I have a bad feeling about something
(See: Elon and companies, alleged grassy knoll ear shots, LLMs, cryptocurrency, Gamergate, project 2025)
And I get tech people yelling at me in the comments,
Within two years I’m proven extremely right.
@hacks4pancakes Same. The curse of enhanced pattern recognition v “The inability to understand something, if your pay check/identity/self image/power depends on you not understanding it”.
I learned to trust my intuition.
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This is anecdotal, but every time I say I have a bad feeling about something
(See: Elon and companies, alleged grassy knoll ear shots, LLMs, cryptocurrency, Gamergate, project 2025)
And I get tech people yelling at me in the comments,
Within two years I’m proven extremely right.
@hacks4pancakes This experience has predominantly been my experience in this information security industry. It's led to losing people that I thought were friends and groups of people breaking apart because those fighting would not relent. It really sucks that that experience exists and that multiple people have experienced it. This fall of an empire that we will watch happen in the USA, I hope that on the otherside that collapse will lead to the crushing of toxic paradigms like this.
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@RegGuy @hacks4pancakes Last night, my uncle (investor/manager, zero computing background) called me saying he wants to install OpenClaw on his machine (and "to automate my company") with a lot of FOMO energy. He asked me because he didn't have the skill to figure out how to install that (and yet still thinks it is fine to let it "automate" his company, unmaintained?) I honestly don't know how to dissuade him.
@lesley @RegGuy @hacks4pancakes just show em the tweet from meta’s AI security team head, who had openclaw just going nuclear on their email box.
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@mrrmot @cford @hacks4pancakes
Once we agree on the basic observable facts, I find that predictions about the future can be quite subjective. And rational decision making must involve expectations about likely future consequences, I would think.
@kentenmakto @mrrmot @cford@toot.thoughtworks.com @hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange
A response that seems to keep fading in and out of accessibility with 404 and 500 errors:
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@JeffGrigg @mrrmot @CFord @hacks4pancakesDebate is not 'practical' or 'workable'.
https://mastodon.social/@kentenmakto@mastodon.ie/116193760507688125
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@kentenmakto @mrrmot @cford@toot.thoughtworks.com @hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange
A response that seems to keep fading in and out of accessibility with 404 and 500 errors:
Patrick Morris Miller
@kentenmakto
@JeffGrigg @mrrmot @CFord @hacks4pancakesDebate is not 'practical' or 'workable'.
https://mastodon.social/@kentenmakto@mastodon.ie/116193760507688125
@kentenmakto @mrrmot @cford@toot.thoughtworks.com @hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange @CFord @hacks4pancakes
Arguing can be destructive.
Debate can be fraught.
Respectful Discussion is desirable. Keeping it positive and productive can be difficult.
What good alternatives do we have for resolving our differences?
Ignoring legitimate disagreements or trying to pretend that they don't exist also has its "downsides."
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This is anecdotal, but every time I say I have a bad feeling about something
(See: Elon and companies, alleged grassy knoll ear shots, LLMs, cryptocurrency, Gamergate, project 2025)
And I get tech people yelling at me in the comments,
Within two years I’m proven extremely right.
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@hacks4pancakes Cognitive dissonance is a bitch and a half.
Definitely a case where two things/both cannot be true. It is one or the other, and I would lean towards the thingz being fishy.
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I think that is because they’re all attached to really hype, addictive, subversive things, and We Computer People think we’re immune to that. To the point of getting aggressive when someone says they’re bad.
@hacks4pancakes i've come to accept that many need to learn the hard way and find out themselves. I joke my home office walls are plastered with 'i told you so's.
you'd think that over time one's track record would change things... but nah 😅
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The one I haven’t won out on because thankfully the other shoe hasn’t dropped is insecure child tracking apps but omg
@hacks4pancakes
Was the prediction more specific than this? Or different timeframe? https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2025/07/catwatchful-child-monitoring-app-exposes-victims-data -
@hacks4pancakes Yeah. Somebody bad is gonna... yeah.
@jmax @hacks4pancakes Oh. Oh no. Fuck.
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@hacks4pancakes This. And then there’s the massive FOMO every time bad but shiny tech gets hyped. Tech people loooove shiny things, and FOMO is the mind killer.
FOMO is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my FOMO. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the FOMO has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
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This is anecdotal, but every time I say I have a bad feeling about something
(See: Elon and companies, alleged grassy knoll ear shots, LLMs, cryptocurrency, Gamergate, project 2025)
And I get tech people yelling at me in the comments,
Within two years I’m proven extremely right.
@hacks4pancakes I have been the guy with twigs in his beard saying "don't use that thing everybody uses" for twenty years now. I keep being proved right. But I don't have a huge marketing budget or a horde of uncritical fanboys.
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This is anecdotal, but every time I say I have a bad feeling about something
(See: Elon and companies, alleged grassy knoll ear shots, LLMs, cryptocurrency, Gamergate, project 2025)
And I get tech people yelling at me in the comments,
Within two years I’m proven extremely right.
@hacks4pancakes Same.
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@hacks4pancakes This. And then there’s the massive FOMO every time bad but shiny tech gets hyped. Tech people loooove shiny things, and FOMO is the mind killer.
@schrotthaufen @hacks4pancakes seriously. when the old hands complain about some shiny new thing, sometimes it's not because we're being crotchety old nags who are out to spoil everyone's fun
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You’re mad because you’re so deeply invested and wired into something that me yelling that the emperor is naked makes you want to fight.
I have no problem with someone who is willing to fight for what they believe in. It only becomes a problem when confronted/presented with the rest of the facts, that they do not have the courage to reevaluate their beliefs.
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@haakon @lesley @RegGuy @hacks4pancakes A naive intern who's also working for your competitors. 🙃
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This is anecdotal, but every time I say I have a bad feeling about something
(See: Elon and companies, alleged grassy knoll ear shots, LLMs, cryptocurrency, Gamergate, project 2025)
And I get tech people yelling at me in the comments,
Within two years I’m proven extremely right.
I was really confused about the grassy knoll thing, one search later and I discovered people are still discussing the death of JFK on the year 2026