does anyone know who's behind "open.news"?
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@jdp23 @moderation @ansuz @Homebrewandhacking It's all cool đ.
Thank you for thinking of me Jon
But Sheesh there's a pipeline to the fediverse that ignores consent.
It's all about the content aggregation. Because obviously the fediverse only wins if everyone is on it /s đ
"So it still needs to be called out, because there's a pipeline to the Fediverse that thinks about the technical aspect first and the wider community a long time afterwards."
https://dotart.blog/cobbles/reflections-on-fedicon-and-foss-guilt-by-association
Of course!
From a consent perspective, I wonder whether it's paying attention to existing signals like indexable and discoverable on public posts?
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Of course!
From a consent perspective, I wonder whether it's paying attention to existing signals like indexable and discoverable on public posts?
@jdp23 @ansuz @Homebrewandhacking I suspect it isn't. Consent seems to be ignored a lot of the time, the exceptions are notable.
There's little excuse for ignorance now.
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@jdp23 @ansuz @Homebrewandhacking I suspect it isn't. Consent seems to be ignored a lot of the time, the exceptions are notable.
There's little excuse for ignorance now.
@onepict @jdp23 @Homebrewandhacking
the fact that the apparent author links to readily.news from their masto bio but fails to mention that it's their project makes me think that they know what they're doing is sketchy.
people who are proud of their work tend to put their name on it, but even on the site itself there's zero mention of who's behind it. I only found confirmation of it because I went digging through old versions on archive.org
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Of course!
From a consent perspective, I wonder whether it's paying attention to existing signals like indexable and discoverable on public posts?
@jdp23 @onepict @ansuz @Homebrewandhacking I don't think so, considering followers-only posts are being scraped
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@onepict @jdp23 @Homebrewandhacking
the fact that the apparent author links to readily.news from their masto bio but fails to mention that it's their project makes me think that they know what they're doing is sketchy.
people who are proud of their work tend to put their name on it, but even on the site itself there's zero mention of who's behind it. I only found confirmation of it because I went digging through old versions on archive.org
Yeah you did great detective work -- and the FediForum session makes it clear it's him. And yes, he's not acting like somebody who's proud of it. So maybe I should initially approach him somewhat gently on Bluesky instead of confronting him with "you are thoroughly busted" in the first post.
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Alternatively, if anybody else feels they can toot about this in a way that gets more traction, please do!
Maybe I ought to change the headline of my article to "Techbro builds Cambridge Analytica for the Fediverse" or something more inflammatory like that?
@ansuz honestly the observed facts are bad enough, don't sensationalize
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Thanks @ansuz for the detailed writeup about readily.news. I can share the link with the guy who appears to be behind it on Bluesky if that would be useful, or alternatively start by engaging with him and asking questions.
@misc @haubles it looks like you were both at the fediforum session on Discovery and the Fediverse (algos, curation, interfaces). Do you happen to reember anything from the discussion about Readily, which at the time was "adding Brave Goggles to itâs daily digest to allow users to choose what gets boosted".
If you want a clickbait-y title another option is to include non-consensual, fediverse scraper, and LLM in it. That said the understaed approch of the current title is good too and it's style is more fedi-like. It's always hard to predict which of these incidents gets traction and which don't -- and stuff often flies under the radar for a while.