So, is it getting quieter here in the #Fediverse; is it even dying?
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So, is it getting quieter here in the #Fediverse; is it even dying?
That I don't know, but I can add some data: At least for @heiseonline it seems to be the opposite; the number of comments and likes keeps on growing.@Mastodon @SocialMedia @fediverse
@mho @heiseonline @fediverse The lack of consistent federation between microblogging and threadiverse doesn't help either. For example on microblogging I can't see the comments from @Blaze towards @schnurrito because they were announced by the @fediverse to everyone, but mastodon just ignores it unless it's address to the OP.
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So, is it getting quieter here in the #Fediverse; is it even dying?
That I don't know, but I can add some data: At least for @heiseonline it seems to be the opposite; the number of comments and likes keeps on growing.@Mastodon @SocialMedia @fediverse
@mho @heiseonline @fediverse Auch hier bei uns ist ein leichter, aber stetiger Anstieg messbar.
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@mho @heiseonline @fediverse The lack of consistent federation between microblogging and threadiverse doesn't help either. For example on microblogging I can't see the comments from @Blaze towards @schnurrito because they were announced by the @fediverse to everyone, but mastodon just ignores it unless it's address to the OP.
@db0@hachyderm.io said in So, is it getting quieter here in the #Fediverse; is it even dying?:
> For example on microblogging I can't see the comments from @Blaze towards @schnurrito because they were announced by the @fediverse to everyone,Wait, doesn't that mean you should see it? If a user on the Mastodon server is following the category then they should receive a copy of everything.
In fact it's that they shove every boost into the home feed that is the problem...
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@julian Yes, but if you don't follow the category, you don't see replies to other people in the same post.
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The threadiverse feels as active as usual imho. We still can't really attract non-early adopters (i.e. privacy and FOSS enthusiasts), but the next reddit exodus is inevitable at some point.
I dunno, look at all that the Musk does to X (or better yet, don't) but then people remain stuck on that platform, held hostage by the network effect or whatever other reason. Enshittification has progressed far enough that Lemmy is not well regarded on Reddit, a fact enhanced by posts talking about it being removed. People may be cutting back on Reddit, but they do not seem to be bringing those discussions here. Perhaps people are discoursing more IRL rather than social media.
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I think we need to ask this question separately for the microblogging fediverse and the "threadiverse" (i.e. Lemmy-compatible communities).
The microblogging fediverse isn't dying, I scroll through it every day, it's one of my main sources of news (some of which I then post on Lemmy). I wouldn't be able to keep up with much more than what I currently get into my feed there.
The threadiverse meanwhile could definitely use much more activity. I hope it eventually becomes a place to discuss even the most niche topics imaginable, like web forums in their era...
Same. Mastodon is pretty good and useful. Lemmy is pretty meh.
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@rupdecat @heiseonline @fediverse
I don't understand: This is a year-to-year comparison by month.
I think they mean comparing Jan 2023 with Jan 2024 and Jan 2025. Then seperately Feb 2023 with Feb 2024 and Feb 2025. Etc.
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As this is a graph of comments and likes to posts by @heiseonline@social.heise.de - who don't post to Lemmy/Piefed - it's probably not related to Reddit. But quitting X is also a good new years resolution I guess. :)
They definitely do post some of their posts directly into threadiverse communities, but xes most of the measured interactions here will by masto etc software
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Yes, but if you don't follow the community/category and stumble onto the post some other way (for example someone reposted it), then you wont see any of the comments
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Yes, but if you don't follow the community/category and stumble onto the post some other way (for example someone reposted it), then you wont see any of the comments
Iirc. you'll see comments towards the OP only (i.e. root comments, and replies to the OP explicitly). You will also not see comments non-OP microbloggers will send towards threadiverse users on other instances than where the community is in.
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They definitely do post some of their posts directly into threadiverse communities, but xes most of the measured interactions here will by masto etc software
I didn't realize—that's pretty cool!
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So, is it getting quieter here in the #Fediverse; is it even dying?
That I don't know, but I can add some data: At least for @heiseonline it seems to be the opposite; the number of comments and likes keeps on growing.@Mastodon @SocialMedia @fediverse
I feel like there's some kind of a ripple going through the Fediverse. Here's my answer from a week ago
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Yes, but if you don't follow the community/category and stumble onto the post some other way (for example someone reposted it), then you wont see any of the comments
Okay, that's fair. The hard requirement for a microblog user to have to follow the community is often too high a barrier (if only because it's not immediately apparent that this needs be done)
That said, Mastodon gets around patchy federation with mention spamming. Threadiverse gets around this with the distributor model (the community itself).
I don't know how to reconcile this from a technical perspective... yet.
Also @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com this is in response to you as well.
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I honestly feel if the two paradigms did a little bit of effort on interoperation, we could figure this out. But all sides of this atm are like "the other side is doing it wrong" and refusing to look at this.
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I honestly feel if the two paradigms did a little bit of effort on interoperation, we could figure this out. But all sides of this atm are like "the other side is doing it wrong" and refusing to look at this.
You're absolutely correct! (Great, now I sound like ChatGPT)
That said I think that's where implementations like NodeBB and Mbin can apply a bit of pressure and act as intermediaries... we want federation to work well too, and we have to straddle both federation styles!
That gives a somewhat unique perspective on problems and solutions.
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@kathsone @esserci @anze3db @fedidevs please note that m1 admin @filippodb & @amministratore don't even made a single starter kit, so your message is incorrect, the only official starter kit used for new users is this one: https://fedidevs.com/s/NzQ2/
other lists are fanmade selections.and they'll probably add more users or maybe improve the descriptions.
In our selection we really want to add international accounts as soon as possible, we just added mastodonmigration and fediversesymbol
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Sorry, @socialnetwork , I don't know who @esserci is, nor if he's a troll. If he's a troll, you can block him, but I asked you or your admins @filippodb @amministratore the question.
Could you answer me instead of the troll?
@anze3db @fedidevs
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@kathsone @esserci @filippodb @amministratore @anze3db @fedidevs wow this is going to be a troll discussion, please note there're plenty of starter pack from the same istance because the faq clearly says:
"It can be used to help new users find accounts to follow, or to promote specific communities or topics."
those idiots are clearly trolling, starter pack are made to privately promote a specific communities or whatever you want.
just another italian example: https://fedidevs.com/s/NzYy/
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@esserci Sorry, but I'm not interested in controversy. I just want to help solve what I think is a problem. But I don't want to start a controversy in public because, in any case, the problem doesn't directly concern me.
@filippodb @amministratore @anze3db @fedidevs
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@kathsone that instance was created pretending to be the "Mastodon Italiana" instance, as if it were the official Italian server. It was a clever move because it attracted a huge number of users, but now they might as well stop using these tricks!
Unfortunately, it seems to me that administrators are tempted to confine their users in a cage where they try to keep following the same people from the same instance and the same promotional accounts.
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You're absolutely correct! (Great, now I sound like ChatGPT)
That said I think that's where implementations like NodeBB and Mbin can apply a bit of pressure and act as intermediaries... we want federation to work well too, and we have to straddle both federation styles!
That gives a somewhat unique perspective on problems and solutions.
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I honestly feel if the two paradigms did a little bit of effort on interoperation, we could figure this out. But all sides of this atm are like "the other side is doing it wrong" and refusing to look at this.
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Can you please correct the naming of your Fedidevs.com starter packs?
@filippodb @amministratore dear Mastodon.uno administrators,
I've noticed that some starter packs you've uploaded to the site have incorrect descriptions: they almost seem designed to promote ONLY USERS of your instance, while ignoring all other instances in the #fediverse. In fact, they were all created by service accounts on the mastodon.uno instance.This seems understandable, but I think it's urgent to rename the descriptions of those starter packs to specify that they are exclusively for users of your instance, otherwise they could mislead other users.
The starter packs in question are as follows:
Satira vignette e meme (created by the @satira account, a mastodon.uno service account)Retrogames (created by the @kickoffworld account, a mastodon.uno service account)Profili Free Open Source su Mastodon on Mastodon (created by the @opensource account, a mastodon.uno service account)Ambiente Mobilità sostenibile e giustizia climatica (created by the @ambiente account, a mastodon.uno service account)Fedilug Account Linux Italiani Account Italian Linux Accounts (created by the @linux account, a mastodon.uno service account)Sicurezza digitale (created by the @sicurezza account, a Mastodon.uno service account)Fediverso e Social network (created by the @socialnetwork account, a Mastodon.uno service account)I repeat: it's right to advertise to your users, but it's important to explain that it's self-promotional advertising. For example, the Mastodon UNO & Official Devol Accounts starter pack clearly specifies that it refers to the users of your instance.
This is out of respect for all Italian users of the Fediverse and for the developers who created and made the fantastic Fedidevs resource available for free.
Thank you for your attention and have a good evening
