Broken links aside (fix incoming), #FDroid raises the case against the #Google developer forced registration once again
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Broken links aside (fix incoming), #FDroid raises the case against the #Google developer forced registration once again.
We'll skip the small talk, go read, and better yet, spread this wide and far: https://f-droid.org/2025/09/29/google-developer-registration-decree.html so people are made aware, actions can be taken and #Android is kept truly open!
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Broken links aside (fix incoming), #FDroid raises the case against the #Google developer forced registration once again.
We'll skip the small talk, go read, and better yet, spread this wide and far: https://f-droid.org/2025/09/29/google-developer-registration-decree.html so people are made aware, actions can be taken and #Android is kept truly open!
@fdroidorg this looks like the best place to ask this question.
Hypothetically, if a developer chooses not to register with gooooogle, but still writes apps and publishes their code on gitea or codeberg or some other repository, can they still have their apps on fdroid? Maybe not on play store, but in fdroid? -
@fdroidorg this looks like the best place to ask this question.
Hypothetically, if a developer chooses not to register with gooooogle, but still writes apps and publishes their code on gitea or codeberg or some other repository, can they still have their apps on fdroid? Maybe not on play store, but in fdroid?@sabrinaweb71 They can, but then their friends and family can't install their app. Who wants that?
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@sabrinaweb71 They can, but then their friends and family can't install their app. Who wants that?
So, correct me if i'm wrong, the matter is this: if the google diktat will be actually enforced, no app not signed by google will be able to run on android.
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So, correct me if i'm wrong, the matter is this: if the google diktat will be actually enforced, no app not signed by google will be able to run on android.
@jones @sabrinaweb71 We see this confusion a lot. Google will only hold "a list of application ids and their associated signatures" that they *approved*. The signing part continues as usual. Play apps after Nov 2021 will be signed by Google, older ones will be signed by the developers. On F-Droid, apps are signed by the developers (reproducible builds) or by F-Droid.
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@jones @sabrinaweb71 We see this confusion a lot. Google will only hold "a list of application ids and their associated signatures" that they *approved*. The signing part continues as usual. Play apps after Nov 2021 will be signed by Google, older ones will be signed by the developers. On F-Droid, apps are signed by the developers (reproducible builds) or by F-Droid.
Thank you. So it would be technically possible to keep f-droid.org running, even if google will actually enforce their diktat (as is very very probable, i seem to understand), to distribute the apps of those developers who would not register with google, right? And maybe also the apps of those developers who would?
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Thank you. So it would be technically possible to keep f-droid.org running, even if google will actually enforce their diktat (as is very very probable, i seem to understand), to distribute the apps of those developers who would not register with google, right? And maybe also the apps of those developers who would?
@jones @sabrinaweb71 We sure do can, but we are also aware that the wast majority of our users is not running Google-free devices.
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@jones @sabrinaweb71 We sure do can, but we are also aware that the wast majority of our users is not running Google-free devices.
@fdroidorg @sabrinaweb71
So these apps that f-droid.org could still distribute, regardless of whether developers will choose to register with google or not, will *not* run on any phone with... what? The "google play services"? -
@fdroidorg @sabrinaweb71
So these apps that f-droid.org could still distribute, regardless of whether developers will choose to register with google or not, will *not* run on any phone with... what? The "google play services"?@jones @sabrinaweb71 On the so called "stock" phones that come with Google apps, yes.
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@jones @sabrinaweb71 On the so called "stock" phones that come with Google apps, yes.
@fdroidorg @sabrinaweb71
Thank you :)
So f-droid would still work only on fairphones and other very costly degoogled phones, right? -
@fdroidorg @sabrinaweb71
Thank you :)
So f-droid would still work only on fairphones and other very costly degoogled phones, right?@jones@todon.nl @fdroidorg@floss.social @sabrinaweb71@sociale.network only on murena fairphones, not the normal google ones. it would also (from what i understand) work on any android phone running a non-google rom, like a pixel with grapheneOS
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@jones@todon.nl @fdroidorg@floss.social @sabrinaweb71@sociale.network only on murena fairphones, not the normal google ones. it would also (from what i understand) work on any android phone running a non-google rom, like a pixel with grapheneOS
@tauon @fdroidorg @sabrinaweb71
Thank you :)
So, it would run only for an even smaller user base of people with lots of money. -
@tauon @fdroidorg @sabrinaweb71
Thank you :)
So, it would run only for an even smaller user base of people with lots of money.@jones@todon.nl @fdroidorg@floss.social @sabrinaweb71@sociale.network i wouldn't say "lots of money", you could get a phone that can run a non-google os for relatively cheap, if your own phone can't do it (although, would you really want to wipe your phone to unlock the bootloader?)
it just means people can't use their existing setup to run the apps, which is mega bullshit (and yes, they shouldn't have to pay more to be able to) -
@jones@todon.nl @fdroidorg@floss.social @sabrinaweb71@sociale.network i wouldn't say "lots of money", you could get a phone that can run a non-google os for relatively cheap, if your own phone can't do it (although, would you really want to wipe your phone to unlock the bootloader?)
it just means people can't use their existing setup to run the apps, which is mega bullshit (and yes, they shouldn't have to pay more to be able to)@tauon @fdroidorg @sabrinaweb71 @jones my moto g32 refurbished 79€ with CalyxOS
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@rolery @SmilaBlomma Gira che ti rigira sono sempre i ricchi e potenti che vogliono diventare sempre più ricchi e sempre più potenti. Hai ragione. Niente attori = costi sopra la linea dimezzati = possibilità maggiore di rientrare dei costi del budget.
Ma se togli l’attore togli il lavoro a quasi tutti i reparti. Se l’AI nei film è inevitabile starà ai sindacati difendere le professioni. Potrebbe succedere quello che è successo ai programmatori poco fa. Licenziamenti di massa.
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I just remembered I can add non-steam softand launch it from Steam LMAO
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"Quando pensano per te, quando senti su di te,
la pressione che c'e'
Quando tutti intorno a te hanno le idee confuse
e le miccie accese
Quando parli e lei non c'e' è qualcosa che non puoi
controllare e sale
Quando scopri che anche tu non ti sai fermare.
e vuoi fare male.Ci sono i segni che si vedono
e gli altri che si sentono.
Devi stare molto calmo, devi stare molto calmo..."
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@chatcontrol @belladonnalily but on apps that doesn't have encryption I think they can
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@evan No. There is a moral obligation to obey legitimate authority, whether it serves your interests or not.
(Of course other moral obligations may override that of obeying the law; one must choose the least bad option in a clash.)
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Si dice alle barche di tornare indietro, di non mettersi in pericolo. Esattamente come si dice alle donne di non mettere la minigonna.
Della luna non si parla, non si mostra, chi potrebbe compiere l'azione prevaricatrice non è in primo piano.
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@bkardell I asked you first!
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Reading the news and it seems some idiot decided to take the "this meeting could have been an e-mail" adage to a whole new level
