things humans are bad at: memorising specific sequences of words
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@lispi314 @bri7 @kirtai @apophis
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So at some point one still needs to RTFM (or more in general actually learn how to use the tool). The best UI is not something that makes everything accessible at once (it's simply not possible beyond a certain size of the feature set), it's something that makes it trivial to use common features, and guides you in the discovery/learning of the less common ones. And a good documentation and menu system is what does this.
@lispi314 @bri7 @kirtai @apophis
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There's two examples that come to mind: one is the orthodox file manager (Norton Commander & friends), and the other is the menu system that I only ever found in one desktop program and I can't even remember which, that came with a search function. So you had a SEARCH interface that allowed you to LEARN where things were, and if you were a frequent user of that less common feature you would subsequently just use the menu to find it (muscle memory).
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@oblomov @lispi314 @kirtai @apophis just because they spent money on it doesn’t mean they listened to the people they spent money on, nor that those people knew what they were doing.
there are better and worse designs for ui. there are measurable principles. that we have a lot of bad examples doesn’t imply tgat good , discoverable ui doesn’t or can’t exist
but, ecen the best designs (which microsoft has never produced), has some learning curve.
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@oblomov @lispi314 @kirtai @apophis we’re still looking at documentation on the aame screen as the software we are using. it’s not like we are laboring ubder the constraint that we physically cannot do that cos we do all the time.
what ai am suggesting is we can take it a step further by making the ui self documented- don’t make the document a separate artefact from the ui. combine them.
@bri7 @lispi314 @kirtai @apophis
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https://sociale.network/@oblomov/116096244460698938 I provide an example of the best self-documenting interface I remember (can't say “I know of” because I can't remember which program had it).
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