Since the topic came up in the whole "I run models locally so it's all fine" conversation:
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Since the topic came up in the whole "I run models locally so it's all fine" conversation:
"Open Source AI" does not meaningfully exist. It's just openwashing proprietary shit
https://tante.cc/2024/10/16/does-open-source-ai-really-exist/
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Since the topic came up in the whole "I run models locally so it's all fine" conversation:
"Open Source AI" does not meaningfully exist. It's just openwashing proprietary shit
https://tante.cc/2024/10/16/does-open-source-ai-really-exist/
(I know there are niche attempts that work even worse than all the other models)
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Since the topic came up in the whole "I run models locally so it's all fine" conversation:
"Open Source AI" does not meaningfully exist. It's just openwashing proprietary shit
https://tante.cc/2024/10/16/does-open-source-ai-really-exist/
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(I know there are niche attempts that work even worse than all the other models)
@tante Open Source LLMs do not exist. I refuse to limit the definition of "AI" to only GenAI LLM Nonsense. And on the ML side you have a lot of OSS
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Since the topic came up in the whole "I run models locally so it's all fine" conversation:
"Open Source AI" does not meaningfully exist. It's just openwashing proprietary shit
https://tante.cc/2024/10/16/does-open-source-ai-really-exist/
@tante olmoe by Allen.ai and some Firefox things
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@tante Open Source LLMs do not exist. I refuse to limit the definition of "AI" to only GenAI LLM Nonsense. And on the ML side you have a lot of OSS
@DJGummikuh @tante there are a few in the works
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Since the topic came up in the whole "I run models locally so it's all fine" conversation:
"Open Source AI" does not meaningfully exist. It's just openwashing proprietary shit
https://tante.cc/2024/10/16/does-open-source-ai-really-exist/
Meredith Whittaker explains *why* open source ai is simply a masquerade:
https://ainowinstitute.org/publications/open-source
"The key novelty of the current AI moment is the presence of concentrated amounts of data that had not been available before, and powerful distributed computational systems to process that data to train and perform inference on AI models."
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Since the topic came up in the whole "I run models locally so it's all fine" conversation:
"Open Source AI" does not meaningfully exist. It's just openwashing proprietary shit
https://tante.cc/2024/10/16/does-open-source-ai-really-exist/
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"Even with open-source AI, you still need huge amounts of data, labor, and infrastructure. They don’t challenge the concentration that includes distribution networks, economies of scale, entrenched reach, the ability to define the tooling and the standards, and so on. Claiming they do these things confuses and distracts us from the type of solutions we need."
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Since the topic came up in the whole "I run models locally so it's all fine" conversation:
"Open Source AI" does not meaningfully exist. It's just openwashing proprietary shit
https://tante.cc/2024/10/16/does-open-source-ai-really-exist/
@tante it's like saying windows 11 is open source because it runs on your home computer
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(I know there are niche attempts that work even worse than all the other models)
For instance, anything based on this specific corpus: huggingface.co/papers/2506.052… -
Since the topic came up in the whole "I run models locally so it's all fine" conversation:
"Open Source AI" does not meaningfully exist. It's just openwashing proprietary shit
https://tante.cc/2024/10/16/does-open-source-ai-really-exist/
The thing that is giving me the greatest joy this morning when I woke up was watching Chris Noland and his wife discuss how people are openly rejecting data centers, and they show a short clip of people in the streets, breaking out in cries of joy when one person announced that the data center project had been rejected from their city
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Since the topic came up in the whole "I run models locally so it's all fine" conversation:
"Open Source AI" does not meaningfully exist. It's just openwashing proprietary shit
https://tante.cc/2024/10/16/does-open-source-ai-really-exist/
@tante when ai is open source they just mean its proprietry and not on the cloud
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@danjones000 @Matt_Noyes It does not hurt to try to reduce those emissions; reducing any emissions is good.
But shaming people for using AI as if they are solely responsible for climate change is intellectually dishonest.
There are plenty of other problems with AI; "burning up the planet" is not a convincing one.
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@sako this looks so beautiful!
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@danjones000 @Matt_Noyes electricity is only about 1/3 of global emissions. All data centers, including AI datacenters, are only 1% of electricity usage. That makes 0.3% of total emissions.
Much more emissions are due to cars, meat, cement production and rice cultivation.
I recognize that AI has a lot of electricity use; it is nothing compared to the other things you do with your time.
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Energy from training
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Oh no, Deep Space Nine auto-played after Starfleet Academy. Now I have to watch the whole thing for the third or fourth time. No other option, I guess.
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Another application for AI. Have an AI bot go to a conference for me and listen to everything. Only tell me about the things that I would be interested in.
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@evan@cosocial.ca The article that @Matt_Noyes@social.coop posted in the thread pretty clearly laid out the massive amount of electricity that AI data centers are using. That article isn't the only one saying the same thing. AI is using massive amounts of power.
Traditional server racks consume 5-15 kW, while AI-optimized racks with high-performance GPUs require 40-60+ kW. Some cutting-edge AI training facilities are pushing individual racks to 100+ kW, fundamentally changing data center design and cooling requirements. (ref)
It doesn't really matter if the power is coming from requests to the API, running the models, training the models, or making ritual sacrifices to Baphomet in hopes of making the models sentient.
If someone is using AI, they are indirectly contributing to that power usage. If you can acknowledge that and make peace with it, fine. But, saying that the energy cost is minimal in light of this is ignoring reality.
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@sako Oh I loved banter with protagonist. Playing OneShot left deep impression on me even years after "checks steam"(last played 2019!?) so hope you succeed! Did a brief look on demo (for now) but positional tactics gameplay already was hook for me, so looking forward for the game in the future!
