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@glyph it is aactshuallyy just slightly more than a median yearly salary for a Ukrainian Middle Python or C developer. I assume India ain't any more expensive either. But yeah, only about half a year if you mean a Senior dev. Btw, kinda interesting that Python pays more than C.
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@glyph This reminds me of a funny story:
At a previous job, all reimbursement requests needed to be approved by both the manager and finance. But someone fucked up the ruleset, and the “office supplies” category had no required approval, and would thus be auto-approved.
Look, that keg of beer for the office party is a Supply for the Office, right?
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@aeva I do not know any shader languages and I'm painfully bad at math but I have played around with this stuff enough at this point that I can, like, *smell* SDFs now
@glyph they're a lot of fun
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@glyph it is aactshuallyy just slightly more than a median yearly salary for a Ukrainian Middle Python or C developer. I assume India ain't any more expensive either. But yeah, only about half a year if you mean a Senior dev. Btw, kinda interesting that Python pays more than C.
@mks_h I chose my terms carefully: I did not say “salary” because I am speaking to the people spending the money here, not those receiving it. “fully loaded annual cost” includes benefits, taxes, equipment overhead etc. it costs employers a lot more to hire someone than that person gets in cash :-)
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@glyph This reminds me of a funny story:
At a previous job, all reimbursement requests needed to be approved by both the manager and finance. But someone fucked up the ruleset, and the “office supplies” category had no required approval, and would thus be auto-approved.
Look, that keg of beer for the office party is a Supply for the Office, right?
@jacob this is as hilarious as it is infuriating
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@jacob this is as hilarious as it is infuriating
@jacob if ICs are allowed to book meetings with a dozen people without prior VP approval then they should be able to buy beer or food or a copy of Kapeli Dash or whatever without running it by anyone
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@jacob if ICs are allowed to book meetings with a dozen people without prior VP approval then they should be able to buy beer or food or a copy of Kapeli Dash or whatever without running it by anyone
@glyph My intuition is that companies with strict expense rules might end up spending MORE because people will feel like they want to work the system and spend as much as they’re allowed, whereas with a “here’s a company card, be a grown up about it” policy, people will spend more carefully.
Certainly I know that when I’ve been on a per diem I tend to spend way more than when it’s honor system. If you give me $40 per meal, I’m gonna look for a $40 lunch instead of a hot dog.
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@glyph My intuition is that companies with strict expense rules might end up spending MORE because people will feel like they want to work the system and spend as much as they’re allowed, whereas with a “here’s a company card, be a grown up about it” policy, people will spend more carefully.
Certainly I know that when I’ve been on a per diem I tend to spend way more than when it’s honor system. If you give me $40 per meal, I’m gonna look for a $40 lunch instead of a hot dog.
@jacob the internet removes the subtleties of body language and intonation so you’re gonna have to trust me that I am giving my best thousand-yard stare when I simply say “yes” to that
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@mks_h I chose my terms carefully: I did not say “salary” because I am speaking to the people spending the money here, not those receiving it. “fully loaded annual cost” includes benefits, taxes, equipment overhead etc. it costs employers a lot more to hire someone than that person gets in cash :-)
@glyph fair enough, even just taxes would make it not enough. Should have thought of that.
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@glyph I’ve already seen one iOS app doing this already, which means even though I haven’t upgraded yet I have faux liquid glass for one app and one app only.
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@glyph My intuition is that companies with strict expense rules might end up spending MORE because people will feel like they want to work the system and spend as much as they’re allowed, whereas with a “here’s a company card, be a grown up about it” policy, people will spend more carefully.
Certainly I know that when I’ve been on a per diem I tend to spend way more than when it’s honor system. If you give me $40 per meal, I’m gonna look for a $40 lunch instead of a hot dog.
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@glyph My intuition is that companies with strict expense rules might end up spending MORE because people will feel like they want to work the system and spend as much as they’re allowed, whereas with a “here’s a company card, be a grown up about it” policy, people will spend more carefully.
Certainly I know that when I’ve been on a per diem I tend to spend way more than when it’s honor system. If you give me $40 per meal, I’m gonna look for a $40 lunch instead of a hot dog.
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@glyph fair enough, even just taxes would make it not enough. Should have thought of that.
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@glyph My intuition is that companies with strict expense rules might end up spending MORE because people will feel like they want to work the system and spend as much as they’re allowed, whereas with a “here’s a company card, be a grown up about it” policy, people will spend more carefully.
Certainly I know that when I’ve been on a per diem I tend to spend way more than when it’s honor system. If you give me $40 per meal, I’m gonna look for a $40 lunch instead of a hot dog.
@jacob @glyph I once worked with a FIFO per diem system where we got to keep what we didn't spend. Easy forecasting for the company and a great deal for us (we always headed to the local supermarket after flying in, so a single day's per diem pretty easily covered a week's worth of food). Never seen that approach outside that particular "we really need people to volunteer for on-site shifts" scenario, though.
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@jacob @glyph I once worked with a FIFO per diem system where we got to keep what we didn't spend. Easy forecasting for the company and a great deal for us (we always headed to the local supermarket after flying in, so a single day's per diem pretty easily covered a week's worth of food). Never seen that approach outside that particular "we really need people to volunteer for on-site shifts" scenario, though.
@ancoghlan @glyph That’s actually really brilliant. Per diems are nice for budgeting and accounting because they make expenses predictable, and are nice for operations because they reduce paperwork (receipts and approvals), but they have that big downside of encouraging people to overspend. Letting folks keep the excess is a really great way to have your cake and eat it too.
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@ancoghlan @glyph That’s actually really brilliant. Per diems are nice for budgeting and accounting because they make expenses predictable, and are nice for operations because they reduce paperwork (receipts and approvals), but they have that big downside of encouraging people to overspend. Letting folks keep the excess is a really great way to have your cake and eat it too.
@jacob @ancoghlan almost everywhere within a business that you can budget in terms of “dollars” rather than in terms of “control freak self soothing behaviors on the part of management and finance”, you should do so
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@glyph My intuition is that companies with strict expense rules might end up spending MORE because people will feel like they want to work the system and spend as much as they’re allowed, whereas with a “here’s a company card, be a grown up about it” policy, people will spend more carefully.
Certainly I know that when I’ve been on a per diem I tend to spend way more than when it’s honor system. If you give me $40 per meal, I’m gonna look for a $40 lunch instead of a hot dog.
I remain a fan of Google's travel expense rules: employees get to bank 50% of what they save below a limit for a particular trip, and spend that (few questions asked) on going over limit on a future trip. Unsurprisingly, it tends to do a very good job at reducing largesse on trips that _should_ be cheap.
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@ancoghlan @glyph That’s actually really brilliant. Per diems are nice for budgeting and accounting because they make expenses predictable, and are nice for operations because they reduce paperwork (receipts and approvals), but they have that big downside of encouraging people to overspend. Letting folks keep the excess is a really great way to have your cake and eat it too.
@jacob @ancoghlan @glyph I remember hearing of a company that allowed employees to use some (reasonably large) percentage of unused per diem for future travel expenses, although I can't remember for the life of me where I heard this, so maybe it was just a fever dream.
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@glyph This. A wiki at *best* pushes responsibility for organizing information onto individual contributors who are not generally experts in organization.
That sometimes even works thanks to someone doing the thankless job of keeping internal docs up to date (it's worth, as an aside, reflecting on who does that work and at what cost to professional advancement).
Institutions *need* librarians, not to push system problems onto developers.
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@mcc “八人入” isn’t wrong, but it feels incomplete — like “eight people enter...” and then you wait for the rest.
“八人入众” is more satisfying. It means “eight people enter a crowd” — a complete image, and a great start for a story.
To me, it feels like the opening of a wuxia (武侠 martial arts) tale.
In wuxia, heroes often disappear into crowds before they act. So “eight people enter a crowd” already makes me curious: who are they? what happens next?Thanks for sharing ！
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Ehi Fediverso italiano!
Aiutiamo l'amico di @wohali a trovare un appartamento a Padova!
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@mcc I'm so glad you found a fix!
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@mcc I have to wonder if this is downstream of Unicode's choices around CJK unification. Because I seem to remember reading that it ended up causing some situations where, in order to correctly render a block of text, you need out-of-band knowledge of which language it's in.
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@jonathankoren ゲ ✓ @mcc @rk
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@QasimRashid Quite wonderful, isn't it?
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Why is Don Draper such a little bitch?
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@Heliograph @mcc @rk
Narrator: They brought home zero ges of companions
