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@etsyy @glyph I guess I'm not sure that we do "collectively act against our own best interests?" I think people reliably act in their own best interests but that we don't all agree on what interests we should prioritize for ourselves or our community. I think that privacy is important and others may think that safety and convenience are more important.
@baconandcoconut @etsyy @glyph and ... it takes a critical mass to get momentum.
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@glyph I hold in my left hand the essay _The Californian Ideology_, about the birth of Silicon Valley.
I hold in my right hand Jordan Peele's and Bradley Whitford's note-perfect depiction of the successful white hippie in _Get Out_ in all his self-assured and liberated power to casually oppress.
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@glyph i like the idea that some forms of time are civil and some are not
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@glyph i like the idea that some forms of time are civil and some are not
@glyph barbaric time when
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@glyph barbaric time when
@Forbearance it's a bit less ambiguous than some of the other names for this type of timekeeping, i.e. "wall clock time" which is ambiguous for a few other concepts https://fritter.readthedocs.io/en/latest/civil.html
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@Forbearance it's a bit less ambiguous than some of the other names for this type of timekeeping, i.e. "wall clock time" which is ambiguous for a few other concepts https://fritter.readthedocs.io/en/latest/civil.html
@glyph oh hey you can teach mypy if your times are aware
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@glyph oh hey you can teach mypy if your times are aware
@Forbearance yeah that's another library I maintain 🙃
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@etsyy @baconandcoconut @glyph Trying to figure out human nature from analyzing the arc of computer development, even in a social context, would be extremely difficult. While there are some sociological and philosophical constructs to explain it, suffice it to say that this is something human beings just do.
@scooter @baconandcoconut @etsyy @glyph
according to this Mayan shaman :
https://www.thesunmagazine.org/issues/304/saving-the-indigenous-soul
“the spiritual debt that must be paid for the creation of (any) such a tool is great”
Or, To paraphrase Douglas Adams :
“we’ve all made a big mistake in using knives as technology in the first place.“
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/753438-many-were-increasingly-of-the-opinion-that-they-d-all-made
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@morgan @glyph You can definitely make Google accounts with non Google email addresses. I and other family members have a number of them, some even made recently. The setup process for a new phone might not allow creation of new Google accounts that way, but you can sign in to them on new phones and in general you can make them.
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@morgan @glyph Last time I did it, the big stumbling block I hit was that it wanted me to verify with a phone, and the link was seemingly bogus (wouldn't open). It turned out it was a link that was supposed to open an an SMS intent to send a fixed string to a particular number. Once I decoded it and sent the SMS by hand, everything worked.
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@glyph your post about the fritter update nudged me into checking in on the Linux bits of Pomodouroboros last night
Seems like there's some GTK jank (I guess maybe I have a different version?) but sorting out some bits in the UI XML I was able to get the progress bar to appear once again, and the calendar/list UI showed up as well.
Exciting stuff :D
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@glyph your post about the fritter update nudged me into checking in on the Linux bits of Pomodouroboros last night
Seems like there's some GTK jank (I guess maybe I have a different version?) but sorting out some bits in the UI XML I was able to get the progress bar to appear once again, and the calendar/list UI showed up as well.
Exciting stuff :D
@SnoopJ I am going to be focusing on productionizing the new model since I think the Linux concept is somewhat proven at this point, and given how hard it is to do anything there, I might as well get the more interesting stuff fixed up. (In the new model, many more things are Observable and thus should be easier to hook up to GTK+ widgets anyway)
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@SnoopJ I am going to be focusing on productionizing the new model since I think the Linux concept is somewhat proven at this point, and given how hard it is to do anything there, I might as well get the more interesting stuff fixed up. (In the new model, many more things are Observable and thus should be easier to hook up to GTK+ widgets anyway)
@glyph yee haw
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@SnoopJ I am going to be focusing on productionizing the new model since I think the Linux concept is somewhat proven at this point, and given how hard it is to do anything there, I might as well get the more interesting stuff fixed up. (In the new model, many more things are Observable and thus should be easier to hook up to GTK+ widgets anyway)
@SnoopJ also, https://mouseless.click is not open source but it *does* showcase the ability to put a full-screen overlay of the style that I want on Wayland… somehow. I think. I can't try it because of unrelated wayland-adjacent brokenness (i.e.: udev) and its own own-goal nonsense (busted licensing) but maybe you can let me know? It seems to be in Python!
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@glyph The same thing but the other way round
https://www.boredpanda.com/funny-english-translations-t-shirt-fail-asia-broken-engrish/
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I never perceived it as that sort of revolution, but did notice a few years ago that almost everything that I work on[1] was some variant of redressing technology tending to confer power on capital.
1: GDPR etc., amateur radio, Internet Society, FOSSASIA
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> We are never going back to a world where general-purpose computers are exclusively reserved for the military or billion-dollar corporations.
A staggering amount of capital is being bet at present on the assumption that this is precisely what's about to happen. Sure, we'll still have microcontrollers, but the bet is that kilo-GPU datacentres are what will matter.
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Right. See also:
- A global coloniser suddenly gaining control of a continent-sized chunk of thinly-occupied land in the 18th century.
- Sudden shortage of people (or equivalently: surplus of land, equipment, and other capital) in 14th century Europe.
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@glyph having wandered away for a few hours, and coming back to this I'm remembering an observation that I think meshes well with what you're saying: the dot com bubble put a lot of money into improbable everything-websites that made a lot of us go "wow the internet is amazing!" but they were the kinds of things that require a massive burning money pile as fuel (deviantart was the specific example) and are not an inevitable natural emergent consequence of the internet's structure
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@glyph more broadly that discussion was about how hard it is to perfectly clone and replace silos like deviantart and twitter without a money pile, because you run into scalability and moderation problems really fast.
so I feel the question looking forward is less how do we keep personal computers as a tool of liberation going so much as how do we liberate the internet from capital and build suitable alternatives to things we loved about the internet that aren't already low cost to replace
> how do we liberate the internet from capital
I suspect that this just a particular instance of: how do we liberate society from capital?
(I don't have a good answer. It occurs to me that the US founders' aversion to kings likely did not imply great enthusiasm for an aristocracy/oligarchy, but keeping the latter at bay is hard.)
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@eniko Then 🎂 !
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@j_bertolotti i think so yeah
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@eniko At least are you happy about completing thing?
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@ozzelot thing is good
or at least, i sure hope it is
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@thevhswizard very good reply thank u
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@eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place
I wanna know about thing tho
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@eniko yay! thing!
unless thing is bad. then nay! thing! boo!
