What’s up with delivery addressing being in both #activitypub activities and objects?
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What’s up with delivery addressing being in both #activitypub activities and objects? If my app publishes a nonpublic Create with different direct delivery targets than the created Object, what happens? What is supposed to happen? I know the spec recommends against it (suggests duplicating the addresses in both), but why was this considered a feature to allow? I think there should have been a non-AS2 envelope for addressing rather than embedding it (twice) into the content. You know, like email.
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What’s up with delivery addressing being in both #activitypub activities and objects? If my app publishes a nonpublic Create with different direct delivery targets than the created Object, what happens? What is supposed to happen? I know the spec recommends against it (suggests duplicating the addresses in both), but why was this considered a feature to allow? I think there should have been a non-AS2 envelope for addressing rather than embedding it (twice) into the content. You know, like email.
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@morst No one is saying encryption is off the table. Just that I wanted to start with low hanging fruit (bucause the improvements are so much easier. Others are working on the encryption (it's a VERY hard problem)
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@Rycaut Exactly. My hypothese is that most PMs are scoping outisde of the public discourse and are not in need to encryption. This doesn't mean it's not a good long term goal! Just saying lots of usage does not require it
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@benpate Could not agree with you more! Do you have any ideas on how to improve threads? Any products that do it well for example? Branching threads are a bit like merging PRs, the dependency tree can get crazy complex!
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@grahamperrin Oh I plan to! But it helps to have a conversation first so I know WHAT to put into the poll...
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This is what I meant that there are lots of things to look at here. As Evan points out, let's make PMs actually something distinct and clearly not a message. Too many people either think something is a PM and it isn't or it is, and it shows up in your feed which makes people panic!
So many simple things to clean up here.
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I think it's discussed here:
https://socialwebfoundation.org/2025/12/19/implementing-encrypted-messaging-over-activitypub/
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#TedUnangst seems to be off the Fediverse (and maybe the web) but linking this here for posterity: https://github.com/timkuijsten/honk/blob/fork/encrypt.go
