does anyone know whats the status of end to end encryption in #activitypub like is it already implemented???
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does anyone know whats the status of end to end encryption in #activitypub
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does anyone know whats the status of end to end encryption in #activitypub
like is it already implemented???With the current architecture, it's meaningless. TLS does a good enough job securing server to server communication.
So the first step would be to separate the device, i.e. the thing in the users hands, from the ActivityPub actor. Until devices have a meaningful identity in the Fediverse talking about E2EE is meaningless.
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does anyone know whats the status of end to end encryption in #activitypub
like is it already implemented???valorzard@mastodon.gamedev.place as far as I know there is no E2EE in ActivityPub yet, although it is focus of the SWF
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@julian @valorzard we have a spec and we are looking for implementers.
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@julian @valorzard we have a spec and we are looking for implementers.
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With the current architecture, it's meaningless. TLS does a good enough job securing server to server communication.
So the first step would be to separate the device, i.e. the thing in the users hands, from the ActivityPub actor. Until devices have a meaningful identity in the Fediverse talking about E2EE is meaningless.
@helge @valorzard I am planning to implement this: https://codeberg.org/silverpill/feps/src/branch/main/0806/fep-0806.md
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@helge @valorzard I am planning to implement this: https://codeberg.org/silverpill/feps/src/branch/main/0806/fep-0806.md
silverpill@mitra.social oh don't tell me we're going to have competing E2EE implementations too!
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What will this mean? We're working with extensions to ActivityPub to bring top-tier encryption into the Fediverse - the same industry standard that powers Android, Apple, Discord, and others.
We're aiming to release our first versions mid-year.
#Bonfire and #Emissary are great choices because each is a sort of "application builder" that can be molded to fit many different situations. It's going to be a massive undertaking, but I'm looking forward to the results
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@GhostOnTheHalfShell Interesting. Would you call a situation where every city provides services to citizens a "competitive market"?
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web design is a CSS-pool of hacks
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Soooo... #JustBetweenUs There's already some big stuff in the works for 2026:
The Social Web Foundation (@swf) has kicked off a project to bring real end-to-end encryption to the Fediverse. It's a big undertaking, with real financial backing from the @sovtechfund
Check out the announcement: https://socialwebfoundation.org/2025/12/19/implementing-encrypted-messaging-over-activitypub/
And, I'm very excited that #Emissary is one of the projects selected to participate in the work alongside the @bonfire team.
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@evan Yes, but democracy, if it has markets, also requires markets to be competitive, lest powerful actors get so powerful that democracy itself is functionally lost.
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I do want to say, however, that crafts people at the very least should be able to offer their wares for sale.
The worst aspects of the Internet come from the centralized commercial platforms. We could have a world of cities, providing Internet access, web, hosting services and online storage and processing.
They could be organizing in the same way the fediverse is. Every resident and local business gets access.
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