Tldr; I love my job, hate the Netherlands, want to move somewhere warmer but where and how?
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The saga continues. ๐ฅฒ
We've established that I need to move abroad. I still don't know where to. And I have two cats to bring along.
The problem is that buying a campervan will easily erase 1/3rd to 1/2 of my savings. And I need those savings to buy a house or start a business. It would be much cheaper if I just knew where I wanted to live and moved there, but noooo. ๐
I'm worried about spending all my money on travelling and then not having any left to move.
9/n
@Gina I heard you can get cheap camper vans on OnlyCamperVans :P
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@Gina I heard you can get cheap camper vans on OnlyCamperVans :P
@martijn ah yes, let me create an account on OnlyVans ๐
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The saga continues. ๐ฅฒ
We've established that I need to move abroad. I still don't know where to. And I have two cats to bring along.
The problem is that buying a campervan will easily erase 1/3rd to 1/2 of my savings. And I need those savings to buy a house or start a business. It would be much cheaper if I just knew where I wanted to live and moved there, but noooo. ๐
I'm worried about spending all my money on travelling and then not having any left to move.
9/n
@Gina Reading through the whole thing, I don't know the world enough to recommend you the sweet spot, you definetly have options to run away from the cold, but from the right and finantial crisis I don't think you can. The entire world seems to be going down the drain in that sense. If you can work remotely earning in Euros you'd at least be ok finantially in a lot of places, but that's a big if.
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@lalalasombra I'm considering this, maybe for a weekend in NL or a week in Fontainebleau, FR. ๐ฅ
@Gina I think a week in Fontainebleau might be the perfect test. Also, freshly baked ๐ฅ
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@Gina Reading through the whole thing, I don't know the world enough to recommend you the sweet spot, you definetly have options to run away from the cold, but from the right and finantial crisis I don't think you can. The entire world seems to be going down the drain in that sense. If you can work remotely earning in Euros you'd at least be ok finantially in a lot of places, but that's a big if.
@ojonnysilva might as well jump off a cliff then ๐
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@MisterMaker ik wil niet in NL op vakantie, maar dit is wel m'n startpunt, dus ik zal sowieso 1x het land in en uit moeten rijden. Geen idee of dat dan mag, en of je รผberhaupt een buitenlands kenteken mag registeren als NLse burger.
@Gina @MisterMaker voor Spanje toch een kleine waarschuwing, de belastingdienst daar (Hacienda) is echt haast een terreurorganisatie. Ze zijn berucht op jagen op buitenlandse mensen. Vele Nederlanders komen behoorlijk in de problemen door de Spaanse belastingdienst.
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I'm also very unsure whether I'll like travelling by campervan. It seems equal parts fun and ghetto. ๐
Btw this would be across Europe. The question is where (but I'd def want to include France, Austria, Slovenia, Greece and Turkey).
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@Gina
Do you have one of those digital Payage thingies that works for a bunch of EU countries? A friend got one of those. Handy for roadtrips these days. -
@Gina @MisterMaker voor Spanje toch een kleine waarschuwing, de belastingdienst daar (Hacienda) is echt haast een terreurorganisatie. Ze zijn berucht op jagen op buitenlandse mensen. Vele Nederlanders komen behoorlijk in de problemen door de Spaanse belastingdienst.
@AccordingtoWouter @MisterMaker Eerlijk gezegd trekt Spanje mij ook niet heel erg. Portugal al helemaal niet. Ik voel denk ik meer voor de kant van Frankrijk, Italiรซ, Kroatiรซ, Griekenland.
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@MisterMaker ik wil niet in NL op vakantie, maar dit is wel m'n startpunt, dus ik zal sowieso 1x het land in en uit moeten rijden. Geen idee of dat dan mag, en of je รผberhaupt een buitenlands kenteken mag registeren als NLse burger.
@Gina Zit nog even te checken, en kan geen zak vinden op de website van de belastingdienst. Maar lijkt wel dat het allemaal beetje schimmige contructies zijn denk niet echt risico waard.
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@Gina
Do you have one of those digital Payage thingies that works for a bunch of EU countries? A friend got one of those. Handy for roadtrips these days.@n3wjack you mean for the toll roads?
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@Gina Zit nog even te checken, en kan geen zak vinden op de website van de belastingdienst. Maar lijkt wel dat het allemaal beetje schimmige contructies zijn denk niet echt risico waard.
@MisterMaker de Belastingdienst kennende zal er wel weer een gigantische boete op staan.
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The saga continues. ๐ฅฒ
We've established that I need to move abroad. I still don't know where to. And I have two cats to bring along.
The problem is that buying a campervan will easily erase 1/3rd to 1/2 of my savings. And I need those savings to buy a house or start a business. It would be much cheaper if I just knew where I wanted to live and moved there, but noooo. ๐
I'm worried about spending all my money on travelling and then not having any left to move.
9/n
@Gina feels like Spain could work nicely?
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I'm also very unsure whether I'll like travelling by campervan. It seems equal parts fun and ghetto. ๐
Btw this would be across Europe. The question is where (but I'd def want to include France, Austria, Slovenia, Greece and Turkey).
10/n
@Gina you can rent campervans quite easily, so easy to try.
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@Gina @MisterMaker voor Spanje toch een kleine waarschuwing, de belastingdienst daar (Hacienda) is echt haast een terreurorganisatie. Ze zijn berucht op jagen op buitenlandse mensen. Vele Nederlanders komen behoorlijk in de problemen door de Spaanse belastingdienst.
@AccordingtoWouter @Gina Krijg je daar ook een boete als je 1 keer vergeet op verzenden te drukken bij de belasting aangifte.

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@MisterMaker yeah buying/owning/driving a campervan is ridiculously expensive in NL (just like everything else yay).
I was looking into buying abroad, but I think you can't bring it into the Netherlands then, which sounds challenging.
Edit: I'm so sick of this country ๐
@Gina @MisterMaker have you considered a cheap boat? Anchorages in the med are free. Boat life (to me at least) seems more fun and more freedom than van life.
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I'm also very unsure whether I'll like travelling by campervan. It seems equal parts fun and ghetto. ๐
Btw this would be across Europe. The question is where (but I'd def want to include France, Austria, Slovenia, Greece and Turkey).
10/n
What I could also do, instead of buying a van, is take short city trips by plane during long weekends all over Europe and try different places.
But that would limit me to big cities. While I think I might prefer smaller cities or even the countryside. But still with an expat vibe. And good coffee places. And quiet. But also lively. Sigh. ๐คฆ๐ผโโ๏ธ
11/n
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@AccordingtoWouter @Gina Krijg je daar ook een boete als je 1 keer vergeet op verzenden te drukken bij de belasting aangifte.

@MisterMaker @AccordingtoWouter ha ik heb begin dit jaar nog een boete gekregen omdat ik de btw aangifte een DAG te laat had ingeleverd. Het argument dat hun portaal er de dag ervoor uit lag en ik de aangifte niet KON doen deed er niet toe ๐
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@MisterMaker @AccordingtoWouter ha ik heb begin dit jaar nog een boete gekregen omdat ik de btw aangifte een DAG te laat had ingeleverd. Het argument dat hun portaal er de dag ervoor uit lag en ik de aangifte niet KON doen deed er niet toe ๐
@Gina @MisterMaker ja ook dat gebeurt in Spanje. En erger nog. Dingen als brieven die niet naar je adres zijn verstuurd en mensen dus niet wisten dat er problemen waren en dan geconfronteerd worden met belachelijk hoge boetes. Onduidelijkheden over waar je belasting moet betalen. Gewoon echt horror.
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I'm also very unsure whether I'll like travelling by campervan. It seems equal parts fun and ghetto. ๐
Btw this would be across Europe. The question is where (but I'd def want to include France, Austria, Slovenia, Greece and Turkey).
10/n
@Gina : ๐ค how do campervans and cats work together? Are they roam around freely while you drive? Do you need to get them into transport boxes? Do they have to sit on the co-drivers seat?
You probably don't want them to walk into your field of view or be thrown around if you have to break.
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What I could also do, instead of buying a van, is take short city trips by plane during long weekends all over Europe and try different places.
But that would limit me to big cities. While I think I might prefer smaller cities or even the countryside. But still with an expat vibe. And good coffee places. And quiet. But also lively. Sigh. ๐คฆ๐ผโโ๏ธ
11/n
It will be great fun.
