Tldr; I love my job, hate the Netherlands, want to move somewhere warmer but where and how?
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The problem with NL is that it's cold, grey, wet and miserable. Unless you like cycling through the rain (gas costs 3 dollars a liter and forget about parking), you'll be inside your house for 8 months out of the year. Even during the 2 weeks of summer, there's no nature to enjoy. We basically have 3 nature parks, which you can walk in a day. And that's it. The beaches are shit, the food is flavorless, everything looks the same. It's grey and bland every day.
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@Gina feel ya about the weather and the food, at least the warmer temps in Germany are about 5 months or so, and the nature is beautiful. But i wouldn't mind a winter residence, say Cyprus or Portugal or sth like that.
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@cedric I really wanted it to be Australia, but I'd have to find an employer willing to sponsor my visa and that has been difficult so far.
@Gina oh. Ok... Sure I guess it's also a lot of paperwork. I have no idea. But if you are really sure about that maybe you should try. But better to be sure... It's life changing...
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@Gina this is exactly how I felt in Belgium for two years. Then I went on to rank potential cities across various criteria to find one to move to... but got offered a job in Paris
@mario Paris would already be an upgrade from Amsterdam. I could live around Fontainebleau, less than an hour south of Paris.
How do you like it so far?
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All of that was somewhat tolerable, because at least most of us lived a decent middle class life here. But that's starting to disappear as well. I don't know what's happened the past few years, but life here has gotten ridiculously expensive. Groceries, taxes, rent, incidental expenses, everything increased. To a point where it regularly starts to eat into my savings. It doesn't make financial sense to stay in The Netherlands. It's just not worth it anymore.
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@Gina Oh, poor little white girl, whining about the inconvenience of a slightly expensive life! Cry me a river, you privileged little cunt. Your "decent middle class life" was built on the backs of niggers and kikes, and now it's crumbling? Good! Shoulda kept those apes in their place, and the kikes out of your banks. Netherlands is just a breeding ground for white decay anyway, a land of faggots and trannies. Go somewhere with a little spine, maybe America before the niggers take over completely. Or just accept your fate as another white female, destined to be a cum dumpster for some brown or black mutt. Worth it, huh?
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@dps910 you couldn't pay me to move to England 😅
@Gina You're not a fan of Indonesian food?
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@Gina Oh, poor little white girl, whining about the inconvenience of a slightly expensive life! Cry me a river, you privileged little cunt. Your "decent middle class life" was built on the backs of niggers and kikes, and now it's crumbling? Good! Shoulda kept those apes in their place, and the kikes out of your banks. Netherlands is just a breeding ground for white decay anyway, a land of faggots and trannies. Go somewhere with a little spine, maybe America before the niggers take over completely. Or just accept your fate as another white female, destined to be a cum dumpster for some brown or black mutt. Worth it, huh?
@herrstancil oh wow 😂
*grabs the holy water
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All of that was somewhat tolerable, because at least most of us lived a decent middle class life here. But that's starting to disappear as well. I don't know what's happened the past few years, but life here has gotten ridiculously expensive. Groceries, taxes, rent, incidental expenses, everything increased. To a point where it regularly starts to eat into my savings. It doesn't make financial sense to stay in The Netherlands. It's just not worth it anymore.
4/n
@Gina moving away has been in my backlog for a looong time. problem is always where to move to that isn't worse. like getting a job, probably the people are the biggest question, and hardest question for me to answer. very curious to follow your thoughts and decision.
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@Gina You're not a fan of Indonesian food?
@fullyabstract I love indonesian food, but the fruits and veggies barely have flavor here.
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@herrstancil oh wow 😂
*grabs the holy water
@Gina woah never had someone scream "block me" quite so loudly. done! wtf. how often do you see that?
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@Gina woah never had someone scream "block me" quite so loudly. done! wtf. how often do you see that?
@travisfw that was a uhm.. fascinating read 😅
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All of that was somewhat tolerable, because at least most of us lived a decent middle class life here. But that's starting to disappear as well. I don't know what's happened the past few years, but life here has gotten ridiculously expensive. Groceries, taxes, rent, incidental expenses, everything increased. To a point where it regularly starts to eat into my savings. It doesn't make financial sense to stay in The Netherlands. It's just not worth it anymore.
4/n
That's not even mentioning the pension age that they raised to 72, the houses that on average cost over €500.000 (for a rijtjeshuis btw), the insane cost of being single instead of a couple, and the right wing conservative parties consistently dominating for the last 20 years leading to a hollowing out of every collective utility from healthcare to energy to housing. The Netherlands is a boomers paradise.
5/n
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Tldr; I love my job, hate the Netherlands, want to move somewhere warmer but where and how?
Basically that. It's time for a change. I love my current job, and I wish I could stay in that role for years to come, but a. It's temporary and b. Good god do I hate living in The Netherlands. To a point where something's gotta give.
I'll be slow posting in this thread today, not sure how many toots. Feel free to mute me if this thread becomes annoying. 🫶
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@Gina come to Uruguay 🇺🇾
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@mario Paris would already be an upgrade from Amsterdam. I could live around Fontainebleau, less than an hour south of Paris.
How do you like it so far?
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That's not even mentioning the pension age that they raised to 72, the houses that on average cost over €500.000 (for a rijtjeshuis btw), the insane cost of being single instead of a couple, and the right wing conservative parties consistently dominating for the last 20 years leading to a hollowing out of every collective utility from healthcare to energy to housing. The Netherlands is a boomers paradise.
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@Gina That's really interesting because, despite the rise of Wilders and his ilk, the perception in the UK (or at least, in GenX) is of NL as a bastion of liberalism.
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@Gina That's really interesting because, despite the rise of Wilders and his ilk, the perception in the UK (or at least, in GenX) is of NL as a bastion of liberalism.
@underseamonkey @Gina It may have been, like 20 years ago. Downhill from there.
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The problem with NL is that it's cold, grey, wet and miserable. Unless you like cycling through the rain (gas costs 3 dollars a liter and forget about parking), you'll be inside your house for 8 months out of the year. Even during the 2 weeks of summer, there's no nature to enjoy. We basically have 3 nature parks, which you can walk in a day. And that's it. The beaches are shit, the food is flavorless, everything looks the same. It's grey and bland every day.
3/n
> The problem with NL is that it's cold, grey, wet and miserable
*waves from the UK*
It sounds like you'd be right at home here :)
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The problem with NL is that it's cold, grey, wet and miserable. Unless you like cycling through the rain (gas costs 3 dollars a liter and forget about parking), you'll be inside your house for 8 months out of the year. Even during the 2 weeks of summer, there's no nature to enjoy. We basically have 3 nature parks, which you can walk in a day. And that's it. The beaches are shit, the food is flavorless, everything looks the same. It's grey and bland every day.
3/n
@Gina visit Friesland and Drenthe in summer ☺️. Forests, wetlands, what's not to like! That's more than 3 parks.
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> The problem with NL is that it's cold, grey, wet and miserable
*waves from the UK*
It sounds like you'd be right at home here :)
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That's not even mentioning the pension age that they raised to 72, the houses that on average cost over €500.000 (for a rijtjeshuis btw), the insane cost of being single instead of a couple, and the right wing conservative parties consistently dominating for the last 20 years leading to a hollowing out of every collective utility from healthcare to energy to housing. The Netherlands is a boomers paradise.
5/n
Clearly it's time to go (even though I'd be willing to stay a bit longer for a ~particular role~, in case my boss is reading this 😂), but the question is..
..go where?
Australia was a contender, but I haven't heard back from my visa application. Finding a visa sponsored job also hasn't led anywhere. Plus, it feels like Australians are dealing with their own financial challenges, especially aspiring home owners.
6/n
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Tldr; I love my job, hate the Netherlands, want to move somewhere warmer but where and how?
Basically that. It's time for a change. I love my current job, and I wish I could stay in that role for years to come, but a. It's temporary and b. Good god do I hate living in The Netherlands. To a point where something's gotta give.
I'll be slow posting in this thread today, not sure how many toots. Feel free to mute me if this thread becomes annoying. 🫶
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Portugal and especially Lisbon might be something for your longlist. The country has emerged well from a huge hit by the financial crisis (2007/ 2008). Lisbon seems to have an entrepreneurial drive. That includes tech companies.
On the country @Dodo_sipping might be able to contribute some insights. She moved from Germany to the North of Portugal. She can tell herself.
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