Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
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Also this recurring task/meeting/event functionality is *already* standard in Outlook/MS365 for some time.
Its been an open issue since *2017*, apparently 2 weeks ago there is some pull request to add the function still awaiting merging (I don't know how long this process takes before it ends up in the main software, but someone was testing it as recently as 2 days ago)
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@afewbugs i can't find anything on the web version right now but i heavily use recurring tasks to keep track of my weekly homework deadlines and use my nextcloud server and the tasks.org android app for that.
@florian @afewbugs I do this as well for my household tasks, literally bins, sheets, MOT, dishwasher deep clean. It's all repeating tasks.
I use nextcloud only for the sync and do all my adding and ticking off via tasks.org. tasks.org allows repeating tasks and you can even choose from which date to repeat, I love that feature.
Nextcloud has actually a second bug, where if you tick off recurring tasks in the online interface, it ticks them of forever. -
Guess which one usually gets handed to which gender. Men tend to get the one off high profile, highly regarded tasks (build the shed or the kitchen or the database), women tend to get the recurring tasks (clean the house, make sure the invoices are paid on time) that don't get the respect the one off tasks get but without which the big one off projects couldn't happen.
@afewbugs your thread is reminding me strongly of “what’s on her mind” by Allison Daminger. Great book -
@afewbugs Great thread. I think sometimes about how many thousands of lives are saved every day by the cleaning staff at hospitals, but they never get recognition for it, since Preventing a Terrible Thing isn’t nearly as exciting as Fixing Terrible Thing (that maybe could have been prevented)
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So we've strayed a very long way from Nextcloud's task manager, but the older I get the more I see "Who does the dishes after the revolution?" as one of the first questions that should be asked in any progressive space. I've seen at permaculture camps where the men wander off to form a drumming circle while the women set up the cooking rotas and compost station. I've seen it at the meetings where the men stand up and give inspiring speeches while the women organise drinks and take the minutes
In my local anarchist group, the men and the youngest women, fight ice. The women old enough to have kids organize the emotional support group, the conflict resolution group...
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@afewbugs There's one thing that I can somewhat, only a bit, accept as an excuse for talking about NextCloud in particular: It operates on CalDAV Standards and the Tasks part of that ... sucks badly. Like, terrible. I've not been happy with any of CalDAV synced Tasks because not only is support shoddy, but for exactly the reason you give.
However, NextCloud could – as any one of the stakeholders – try to push for something different or find ways to enable this use case better.
Case in point: What do people use for such tasks? Alarms are... hard to manage. Calendar entries are overwhelming. I try paper but I forget too often.
@ljrk @afewbugs putting maintenance tasks in their own calendar, that can thus be hidden could be one way.
regarding task-management in nextcloud in general: i only ever used the "deck"-app as a kanban board. as "tasks", "cards", and "events" are all the same type of caldav-object, they can be dispayed in all 3 apps, but with the deck-app you could e.g. have a columns for daily, weekly, and monthly tasks, and pull a task down to the bottom, so the longest undone task is always at the top.
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@ljrk @afewbugs putting maintenance tasks in their own calendar, that can thus be hidden could be one way.
regarding task-management in nextcloud in general: i only ever used the "deck"-app as a kanban board. as "tasks", "cards", and "events" are all the same type of caldav-object, they can be dispayed in all 3 apps, but with the deck-app you could e.g. have a columns for daily, weekly, and monthly tasks, and pull a task down to the bottom, so the longest undone task is always at the top.
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Hell I even see it in queer spaces where the women, femmes and enbies are the ones organising booking the venue and bringing home made cake after checking everyone's dietary requirements in advance. The first step towards dividing the tasks that bring the glory and the tasks that just have to be done up fairly is just noticing how they're divided now
@afewbugs For the record I would be more than happy to see the matriarchy take over. *
*Hoping when that time comes this token of support excuses me from extra dishwashing duties.
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@afewbugs There's one thing that I can somewhat, only a bit, accept as an excuse for talking about NextCloud in particular: It operates on CalDAV Standards and the Tasks part of that ... sucks badly. Like, terrible. I've not been happy with any of CalDAV synced Tasks because not only is support shoddy, but for exactly the reason you give.
However, NextCloud could – as any one of the stakeholders – try to push for something different or find ways to enable this use case better.
Case in point: What do people use for such tasks? Alarms are... hard to manage. Calendar entries are overwhelming. I try paper but I forget too often.
@ljrk @afewbugs
Would you want to check it off? If you don't stop needing to do it when you do it, is it ever done?Are you hoping to set a time for the task?
(Right now I'm using a weekly markdown document with a list of daily chores at the top and i just copy done thing onto the section for today - not great)
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs kiiiiiinda. Whatever tasks app on your phone that interfaces with Nextcloud can do recurring ones, I've got some set up for trash and plumbing-related shite using tasks.org on my phone, but bizarrely enough the actual "official" nextcloud thing can read and make sense of recurring tasks but lacks the ability to make them.
It lacks a lotta things honestly! Like, I've got a couple hundred duplicated contacts and a whole thread about the drama surrounding why, and I guess we're getting AI splodge instead
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@afewbugs kiiiiiinda. Whatever tasks app on your phone that interfaces with Nextcloud can do recurring ones, I've got some set up for trash and plumbing-related shite using tasks.org on my phone, but bizarrely enough the actual "official" nextcloud thing can read and make sense of recurring tasks but lacks the ability to make them.
It lacks a lotta things honestly! Like, I've got a couple hundred duplicated contacts and a whole thread about the drama surrounding why, and I guess we're getting AI splodge instead
@afewbugs well now I read the rest of the thread and I thought I was alone in making "Nextcloud lacks a very fundamental feature in such a bizarre and counterintuitive way that I can do a whole thread about what this says about the project as a whole" threads but I guess welcome fellow traveller and my condolences on joining this unfortunate club
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@afewbugs well now I read the rest of the thread and I thought I was alone in making "Nextcloud lacks a very fundamental feature in such a bizarre and counterintuitive way that I can do a whole thread about what this says about the project as a whole" threads but I guess welcome fellow traveller and my condolences on joining this unfortunate club
@ifixcoinops well met, comrade
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@afewbugs There's one thing that I can somewhat, only a bit, accept as an excuse for talking about NextCloud in particular: It operates on CalDAV Standards and the Tasks part of that ... sucks badly. Like, terrible. I've not been happy with any of CalDAV synced Tasks because not only is support shoddy, but for exactly the reason you give.
However, NextCloud could – as any one of the stakeholders – try to push for something different or find ways to enable this use case better.
Case in point: What do people use for such tasks? Alarms are... hard to manage. Calendar entries are overwhelming. I try paper but I forget too often.
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@afewbugs @nextcloud do you know? ⬆️
@funz @afewbugs @nextcloud The feature request for repeating tasks can be found here:
https://github.com/nextcloud/tasks/issues/34You can upvote it and leave your feedback.
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If you build a task manager without the facility to do recurring tasks that tells me a) you're not the one doing the recurring maintenance tasks and b) you either don't recognise the importance of maintenance tasks or you haven't even noticed that they're being done around you to allow you to do the big one off production of a European open source task manager, say.
Come on, it's 2026. Do better men. And it is mostly men.
@afewbugs Funny enough, this is one of the main things I spent time thinking about while working on my task manager. Maybe because I live alone, so all the maintenance falls to me?
...but then I never finished build the task manager, for reasons that become apparent when you consider why I might've been building a task manager
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@afewbugs Yeah, I've seen the cycle a lot in transfem spaces and Black spaces and both. Build a space, maintain the space, others come in and complain the space isn't equal enough, burn out and leave the space to build a new one. Rinse repeat.
@JessTheUnstill @afewbugs Oh I was looking for this comic strip but didn’t know how to find it!
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@JessTheUnstill @afewbugs Oh I was looking for this comic strip but didn’t know how to find it!
@MisuseCase @afewbugs I just image search "we will make our own place comic" each time
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If any @nextcloud developers happen to be reading this and want a feminist perspective, actually especially if they're reading and don't want a feminist perspective: there are two types of tasks, one off achievement tasks like build a website, write an article, paint a room where once it's done it's done, and recurring maintenance tasks: do the laundry, change the sheets, water the plants.
@afewbugs @nextcloud
I do track recurring task in my task manager. But they are not chores.My recurring tasks are of nature where I have to make certain payments every month/quarter, or renew domain every x years etc.
I do the chores daily, and adding them to task manager is more hassle than worth it IMO
(After writing such a long reply, now I'm wondering whether OP meant this as a joke 🤷♂️)
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Gawd, the shit I got when I waded into a "discussion" on Instagram about how "men are so helpless and useless and they need to be given a LIST of chores before they will help" and I chimed in: "Actually I have ADHD and if my ex had given me a specific, detailed list instead of just telling me to 'look around and see what needs done' and then getting MAD that I didn't do what HE WANTED DONE maybe I wouldn't have this huge emotional trauma" and it turned into: "YOU'RE JUST ENABLING LAZY MEN AND GIVING THEM EXCUSES, ADHD ISN'T A GOOD EXCUSE, EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW TO CLEAN"… …um, no, not everyone does. And it's really fucking sexist to assume that WOMEN ESPECIALLY are "born with" this knowledge and skill set and little "habit tracker" already programmed in.
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If any @nextcloud developers happen to be reading this and want a feminist perspective, actually especially if they're reading and don't want a feminist perspective: there are two types of tasks, one off achievement tasks like build a website, write an article, paint a room where once it's done it's done, and recurring maintenance tasks: do the laundry, change the sheets, water the plants.
@afewbugs As someone who struggles with doing things on a schedule, IMO there's a sub-type of the second - the tasks that need to be done some amount of time after they were *last* done, whether or not that actually matched the schedule. I want to push a button to indicate that the sheets have in fact been changed, and the next reminder should be X weeks after that date, not end up at odds with the calender because they actually got changed 3 days after the reminder and the skew just keeps accumulating. I don't think I've ever seen this option in any scheduling software.
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