Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
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@afewbugs As someone who struggles with doing things on a schedule, IMO there's a sub-type of the second - the tasks that need to be done some amount of time after they were *last* done, whether or not that actually matched the schedule. I want to push a button to indicate that the sheets have in fact been changed, and the next reminder should be X weeks after that date, not end up at odds with the calender because they actually got changed 3 days after the reminder and the skew just keeps accumulating. I don't think I've ever seen this option in any scheduling software.
@orman Todoist, which I'm currently using, has this option (I was looking at NextCloud because I use it for files and was wondering if I could move my task management over ther etoo) https://www.todoist.com/help/articles/introduction-to-recurring-dates-YUYVJJAV
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I do track recurring task in my task manager. But they are not chores.My recurring tasks are of nature where I have to make certain payments every month/quarter, or renew domain every x years etc.
I do the chores daily, and adding them to task manager is more hassle than worth it IMO
(After writing such a long reply, now I'm wondering whether OP meant this as a joke 🤷♂️)
@mandarvaze It's not a joke. There are some chores I can't keep track of without reminders, when you can't see whether the thing needs doing or has been done (giving someone meds or taking them yourself for example) is something I find helpful to mark off, or things that don't happen every day (change the sheets every seven days, send the meter reading the first working day of the month)
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@ljrk I use Todoist which works really well, but as I'm looking at European alternatives and already use NextCloud for file storage I thought I'd take a look at their task manager
@afewbugs @ljrk my S/O uses Todoist **extensively** and I must say I understand why she picked it. We're both selfhosters and avid FLOSS users, but there's nothing quite like Todoist.
Also: yes, recurring tasks and mental load. As a divorced dad (and single for a long time), +9000 on your original thread and points wrt gender. Life handed me firsthand learning experiences (massive understatement) on that topic.
Also: lists! Tasks and lists!
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@afewbugs does it work with the android nextcloud app ?
Also, if it doesn't do what you want, I believe the idea is you can file a bug report on GitHub, and then be told you're doing it all wrong... Or something, cos open source.
@quixoticgeek @afewbugs I often take the advance in the ticket "I am sure I do something wrong, as I am unable to create a recurring task" 😂
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Because if there isn't I am developing a very strong suspicion that NextCloud developers aren't the ones who do the housework in their households
https://donetick.com/ is self-hostable and very specifically aimed at managing housework. Also US-based though
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@afewbugs Great thread. I think sometimes about how many thousands of lives are saved every day by the cleaning staff at hospitals, but they never get recognition for it, since Preventing a Terrible Thing isn’t nearly as exciting as Fixing Terrible Thing (that maybe could have been prevented)
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs I currently use Vikunja, which absolutely has recurring tasks, but is a bit limited mobile app wise.
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@kate @afewbugs if it helps you can create a recurring task in jtx Board and set it up as you wish. You can then click on "detach all instances", this would take all recurrences and make standalone entries out of them. These entries should then also show up in Nextcloud. However, keep in mind that the series is gone and you can't update all instances in one go anymore.
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs i'm pretty sure: yes
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https://donetick.com/ is self-hostable and very specifically aimed at managing housework. Also US-based though
@qwwerty @afewbugs looks like it can be self-hosted: https://github.com/donetick/donetick
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Because if there isn't I am developing a very strong suspicion that NextCloud developers aren't the ones who do the housework in their households
@afewbugs relatedly, I'm pretty sure the people who design kitchen and bathroom fittings and furnishings have never cleaned a bathroom or kitchen, and don't do much cooking either
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@afewbugs relatedly, I'm pretty sure the people who design kitchen and bathroom fittings and furnishings have never cleaned a bathroom or kitchen, and don't do much cooking either
As a cleaner, married to a caretaker, I can assert that architects have never had to clean or maintain a building....
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As a cleaner, married to a caretaker, I can assert that architects have never had to clean or maintain a building....
@suearcher @kitten_tech my fun story about architecture is I used to work in a university building designed by a famous and award winning architect. It had a recessed light well in the roof with a glass skylight at the bottom. The problem was there was no outlet pipe at the bottom of the light well, so when it rained it filled up with water like a huge suspended swimming pool
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@suearcher @kitten_tech my fun story about architecture is I used to work in a university building designed by a famous and award winning architect. It had a recessed light well in the roof with a glass skylight at the bottom. The problem was there was no outlet pipe at the bottom of the light well, so when it rained it filled up with water like a huge suspended swimming pool
@suearcher @kitten_tech this was obviously a somewhat alarming state of affairs for those who had to work underneath it, trusting the strength of the glass, so it was drained and a sort of greenhouse like contraption built over the top to prevent it from refilling.
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@suearcher @kitten_tech this was obviously a somewhat alarming state of affairs for those who had to work underneath it, trusting the strength of the glass, so it was drained and a sort of greenhouse like contraption built over the top to prevent it from refilling.
@suearcher @kitten_tech This was all before my time so I didn't witness it, but we did have to live with the consequences when I was working there which were that the top floor of the building was unbearably hot every summer due to being encased in a hastily erected greenhouse
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As a cleaner, married to a caretaker, I can assert that architects have never had to clean or maintain a building....
@suearcher @kitten_tech @afewbugs As a lawyer I can tell you that the IT "designers" used by the courts, CPS, solicitors and counsel, have no idea how any of us work, what information we need and in what form.
I used to be handed all the papers at court for the cases I was dealing (up to 15+) could scan them, hand them to clients to read, and go back and take instructions. Easy. Now we get it on line at court (eventually). I can't pass my laptop over can I..FFS. -
@suearcher @kitten_tech This was all before my time so I didn't witness it, but we did have to live with the consequences when I was working there which were that the top floor of the building was unbearably hot every summer due to being encased in a hastily erected greenhouse
That's appalling - both the initial mistake and the fix!
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@suearcher @kitten_tech @afewbugs As a lawyer I can tell you that the IT "designers" used by the courts, CPS, solicitors and counsel, have no idea how any of us work, what information we need and in what form.
I used to be handed all the papers at court for the cases I was dealing (up to 15+) could scan them, hand them to clients to read, and go back and take instructions. Easy. Now we get it on line at court (eventually). I can't pass my laptop over can I..FFS.@PeterMLittle @kitten_tech @afewbugs
There are times when paperless works, but there are many occasions when paper really is the way to go!
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If any @nextcloud developers happen to be reading this and want a feminist perspective, actually especially if they're reading and don't want a feminist perspective: there are two types of tasks, one off achievement tasks like build a website, write an article, paint a room where once it's done it's done, and recurring maintenance tasks: do the laundry, change the sheets, water the plants.
This reminds me of when I expressed surprise on their forum about the health app (now abandoned) not having an option to track menstruation. The obliviousness about the significance of that omission was disheartening.
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@Lilysea it's sad how we have to keep fighting the same battles again and again and again isn't it
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@antoinechambertloir@mathstodon.xyz The distinction you're drawing is a useful one, and I largely agree with it. When translation is imposed on you with no alternative, the responsibility for its faithfulness lies with whoever imposed it.
But it makes me ask: which category does my situation fall into?
I'm writing this reply in English. Not because I chose English as my preferred language of expression, but because if I wrote it in Korean, it would either be ignored or filtered through whatever tool my interlocutor happens to have on hand—and any resulting misreading would be treated as my problem. So I write in English, carefully, to preempt that. Is that a voluntary choice? Formally, yes. Practically, it sits much closer to the “imposed” end of your spectrum than it might appear.
The contract model works cleanly when both parties have genuinely equivalent alternatives. When one party's only real options are “use this tool” or “don’t participate,” the contract framing starts to obscure more than it reveals.
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Saved recording of Brandon's live feed last night up in Illinois. Starting when large hail and tornado first showed up (about 6:20:00), his window would get smashed shortly after.
https://www.youtube.com/live/NYsANnAhr6k?t=23239
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Ipocrisia liberal-progressista: quando le bombe tornano “democratiche”
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@arichtman TIL that's what they're called
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@jfkimmes this does explain something: it seems to be able to invoke tools when it is planning, but then those tools do not get invoked in the final step.
so it uses tools to read files when planning, then fails to use tools when executing.
what a fascinating conundrum.
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@jfkimmes yes, you can have it use a different model for planning.
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@ariadne In any case: as long as the final response is generated by your trained model it will never make a valid tool call since there are probably about zero training examples of the necessary JSON structure required by the tool handling in your furry smut (this is an estimate that could be quite the way off knowing the furry community but still)
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@ariadne Oh, is that a OpenClaw specific feature where you can specify that reasoning traces are generated by a separate model than the actual response? I'm not really familiar with OpenClaw's internals.
