Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
I didn't find a way that I liked to do recurring tasks in NextCloud. I use Superproductivity now. That one has the benefit that recurring tasks don't just recur, they pile up. The next task doesn't simply replace the previous one.
For an ADHD chaos goblin like me, it's handy to see yesterday's "water plants" and "gym" alongside today's "dust hallway" and "gym". I'm nothing if not flaky on bad days. With the "pile" I can remember to do the things on good days.
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I didn't find a way that I liked to do recurring tasks in NextCloud. I use Superproductivity now. That one has the benefit that recurring tasks don't just recur, they pile up. The next task doesn't simply replace the previous one.
For an ADHD chaos goblin like me, it's handy to see yesterday's "water plants" and "gym" alongside today's "dust hallway" and "gym". I'm nothing if not flaky on bad days. With the "pile" I can remember to do the things on good days.
I can also get a nudge that something is wrong if I see multiple self-care tasks piling up.
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So we've strayed a very long way from Nextcloud's task manager, but the older I get the more I see "Who does the dishes after the revolution?" as one of the first questions that should be asked in any progressive space. I've seen at permaculture camps where the men wander off to form a drumming circle while the women set up the cooking rotas and compost station. I've seen it at the meetings where the men stand up and give inspiring speeches while the women organise drinks and take the minutes
@afewbugs Aye, indeed.
And so have all of us.
Any male person denying this observation is being dishonest with someone, quite likely starting with himself.
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs @nextcloud do you know? ⬆️
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I just checked on the latest NextCloud. Nope, no support for recurring tasks at all.
The Calendar, however, has support for repeating an event daily, weekly, multiple times a week, on a day of the month, or annually. And the notes field is about the equal of the Tasks description field.
It doesn't let you mark it as completed, though, or assign it to someone else.
Next I'll look in whatever they have for project management.
@dashdsrdash @afewbugs Recurring tasks (as opposed to recurring calendar events) is probably the one feature I *really* miss in Nextcloud. Yes you can kinda-sorta work around it with calendar events, but *really?*
Even the most basic version, like "repeat X days/weeks/months after completion/original due date", would probably cater to the upper 90s % of the need. On mark as completed, create a new one and copy that metadata. It *shouldn't* be all that difficult, and it *would* be *very* useful!
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I can also get a nudge that something is wrong if I see multiple self-care tasks piling up.
Also, here's the source
https://github.com/super-productivity/super-productivity
It's on GitHub, but nobody's perfect.
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@dashdsrdash @afewbugs Recurring tasks (as opposed to recurring calendar events) is probably the one feature I *really* miss in Nextcloud. Yes you can kinda-sorta work around it with calendar events, but *really?*
Even the most basic version, like "repeat X days/weeks/months after completion/original due date", would probably cater to the upper 90s % of the need. On mark as completed, create a new one and copy that metadata. It *shouldn't* be all that difficult, and it *would* be *very* useful!
@mkj @dashdsrdash @afewbugs and it sounds like since the calendar app already handles this, maybe adding it to the task app would mean "just" sharing the code?
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Hell I even see it in queer spaces where the women, femmes and enbies are the ones organising booking the venue and bringing home made cake after checking everyone's dietary requirements in advance. The first step towards dividing the tasks that bring the glory and the tasks that just have to be done up fairly is just noticing how they're divided now
@afewbugs Yeah, I've seen the cycle a lot in transfem spaces and Black spaces and both. Build a space, maintain the space, others come in and complain the space isn't equal enough, burn out and leave the space to build a new one. Rinse repeat.
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs thank you for posting this. It never even occurred to me that it might not support recurring tasks, since nextcloud in general seems to have the basics covered. I've been adding new one off tasks there as a precursor to moving everything there. Guess I won't be doing that 😟 @RadtkeJCJ
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@mkj @dashdsrdash @afewbugs and it sounds like since the calendar app already handles this, maybe adding it to the task app would mean "just" sharing the code?
@mdione Even better (and I was unaware of this), apparently the backend already supports the necessary functionality https://help.nextcloud.com/t/repeating-tasks/225106/18 so really *all* that would be needed is some form of user interface support.
Which makes it even weirder that this hasn't been implemented despite it being a highly requested feature for *years*.
Come on @nextcloud, what's the hold-up!? I'd happily throw some money into the pot too if we can get this feature.
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@afewbugs Goodness, here's an issue from 2018 that *still open* https://github.com/nextcloud/deck/issues/480
God that's depressing. I have half finished projects like that, but I also need recurring reminders to drink water, so I am not allowed even temporary use of the typical label.
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God that's depressing. I have half finished projects like that, but I also need recurring reminders to drink water, so I am not allowed even temporary use of the typical label.
Huh... I wonder if they support bounties or something similar?
As in, an user puts up (monetary) bounty to get this fixed/added - and anyone can pick it up and get it done?
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Huh... I wonder if they support bounties or something similar?
As in, an user puts up (monetary) bounty to get this fixed/added - and anyone can pick it up and get it done?
@Aprazeth @cratermoon @afewbugs
That might work for a big project like NC. For me, as soon I found https://github.com/super-productivity/super-productivity I mentally tagged the problem as solved, and haven't been able to summon any energy to replicate the solution over at NC.
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Hell I even see it in queer spaces where the women, femmes and enbies are the ones organising booking the venue and bringing home made cake after checking everyone's dietary requirements in advance. The first step towards dividing the tasks that bring the glory and the tasks that just have to be done up fairly is just noticing how they're divided now
@afewbugs I've just read a very similar article, but from 1910. Very sad that we didn't progress much (I mean, men).
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@Aprazeth @cratermoon @afewbugs
That might work for a big project like NC. For me, as soon I found https://github.com/super-productivity/super-productivity I mentally tagged the problem as solved, and haven't been able to summon any energy to replicate the solution over at NC.
Thank you, I quickly perused it, and that looks quite nice. Added it to the backlog to check later :-)
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@afewbugs looks at the local repair cafe and who runs the front desk and who runs the tea counter... Yep checks out
Also this recurring task/meeting/event functionality is *already* standard in Outlook/MS365 for some time.
Its been an open issue since *2017*, apparently 2 weeks ago there is some pull request to add the function still awaiting merging (I don't know how long this process takes before it ends up in the main software, but someone was testing it as recently as 2 days ago)
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@afewbugs i think to a certain extent it's just *easier* to make a task manager that only handles one-off tasks. a lot easier.
which is to say, there may (only may) be no misogeny here, just a complete lack of ability to actually *define* the problem before they try to solve it…
@fishidwardrobe @afewbugs
The misogyny is structural. It's systemic. And the people building the structure should look at what it does -
Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs i can't find anything on the web version right now but i heavily use recurring tasks to keep track of my weekly homework deadlines and use my nextcloud server and the tasks.org android app for that.
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@quixoticgeek I mean from my perspective they are 😂
@afewbugs Non-woman here. I also agree.
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Oh and before anyone says "Oh but women are good at recurring maintenance tasks because they're naturally good at multitasking": 1) saying this will earn you a block. 2) No, we're not, we had to learn to be. That's why I need a task manager to tell me to keep on top of things like that. If you're willing to put in your share of the work to maintain a healthy, functional environment both at home and at work you can learn too
@afewbugs Yes to all of this!
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@antoinechambertloir@mathstodon.xyz The distinction you're drawing is a useful one, and I largely agree with it. When translation is imposed on you with no alternative, the responsibility for its faithfulness lies with whoever imposed it.
But it makes me ask: which category does my situation fall into?
I'm writing this reply in English. Not because I chose English as my preferred language of expression, but because if I wrote it in Korean, it would either be ignored or filtered through whatever tool my interlocutor happens to have on hand—and any resulting misreading would be treated as my problem. So I write in English, carefully, to preempt that. Is that a voluntary choice? Formally, yes. Practically, it sits much closer to the “imposed” end of your spectrum than it might appear.
The contract model works cleanly when both parties have genuinely equivalent alternatives. When one party's only real options are “use this tool” or “don’t participate,” the contract framing starts to obscure more than it reveals.
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Saved recording of Brandon's live feed last night up in Illinois. Starting when large hail and tornado first showed up (about 6:20:00), his window would get smashed shortly after.
https://www.youtube.com/live/NYsANnAhr6k?t=23239
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Ipocrisia liberal-progressista: quando le bombe tornano “democratiche”
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@arichtman TIL that's what they're called
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@jfkimmes this does explain something: it seems to be able to invoke tools when it is planning, but then those tools do not get invoked in the final step.
so it uses tools to read files when planning, then fails to use tools when executing.
what a fascinating conundrum.
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@jfkimmes yes, you can have it use a different model for planning.
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@ariadne In any case: as long as the final response is generated by your trained model it will never make a valid tool call since there are probably about zero training examples of the necessary JSON structure required by the tool handling in your furry smut (this is an estimate that could be quite the way off knowing the furry community but still)
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@ariadne Oh, is that a OpenClaw specific feature where you can specify that reasoning traces are generated by a separate model than the actual response? I'm not really familiar with OpenClaw's internals.
