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  4. #kde is doing this real cool thing where if I hover the mouse over scribus or krita, the cursor shrinks.

#kde is doing this real cool thing where if I hover the mouse over scribus or krita, the cursor shrinks.

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  • Akseli :quake_verified:​ :kde:undefined Akseli :quake_verified:​ :kde:

    @aeva im sorry you have this much trouble with it :( wish i could help.

    Maybe @redstrate has some info? He works on tablet stack with KDE.

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    @aks @redstrate it's alright, i appreciate the sentiment. as long as i have the resolution scale at 1:1, which is fine for the cintiq, the cursor bug doesn't happen, so it's avoidable, but from everything i can tell it's a known issue that's a consequence of wayland's design, and every wayland competitor has the same bug.

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      @aks @redstrate it's alright, i appreciate the sentiment. as long as i have the resolution scale at 1:1, which is fine for the cintiq, the cursor bug doesn't happen, so it's avoidable, but from everything i can tell it's a known issue that's a consequence of wayland's design, and every wayland competitor has the same bug.

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      @aks @redstrate if it were just that i'd probably just try to suck it up or find a work around despite it being a trigger for me, but the hard-coded 3 and 4 finger gesture cancel thing that can't be prevented without forking kwin is the much greater problem (gnome also has its own version of this problem), because it means the virtual instrument application i'm writing will be unplayable on the vast majority of linux machines

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        @aks @redstrate if it were just that i'd probably just try to suck it up or find a work around despite it being a trigger for me, but the hard-coded 3 and 4 finger gesture cancel thing that can't be prevented without forking kwin is the much greater problem (gnome also has its own version of this problem), because it means the virtual instrument application i'm writing will be unplayable on the vast majority of linux machines

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        @aks @redstrate it seems that fedora's extremely broken Cinnamon installation at least is able to handle multitouch in such a way that my application works, so assuming that's not a coincidence caused by something being broken, my plan right now is to evaluate if switching to Mint will at least allow me to finish developing my project and serve as something I can recommend to people who might be interested in using my instrument

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          @aks @redstrate it seems that fedora's extremely broken Cinnamon installation at least is able to handle multitouch in such a way that my application works, so assuming that's not a coincidence caused by something being broken, my plan right now is to evaluate if switching to Mint will at least allow me to finish developing my project and serve as something I can recommend to people who might be interested in using my instrument

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          @aks @redstrate and hopefully from there that might make for a stronger case to challenge the extremely unimaginative assumption that applications must only ever be allocated two touch points, should i try to submit a patch to KDE or Gnome to try to fix this in the future

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            @aks @redstrate and hopefully from there that might make for a stronger case to challenge the extremely unimaginative assumption that applications must only ever be allocated two touch points, should i try to submit a patch to KDE or Gnome to try to fix this in the future

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            @aks @redstrate but I need to put these things on cooldown right now and just focus on what works because it's driving me crazy that every wayland desktop environment in fedora is broken in some significant obvious way

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            • Heals :heart_nb:undefined Heals :heart_nb:

              @aeva I mean, I agree on principle but for me the fractional has to result in a non-fractions physical pixel number XD

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              @heals that's not how fractional scaling works

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                @heals that's not how fractional scaling works

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                @aeva and that’s why it doesn’t work for me <.<

                I’m used to even scales 1 to 1/2/3/4 pixels etc fractional never gave me sharp fonts and I need my text to not be blurry around the edges

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                • Heals :heart_nb:undefined Heals :heart_nb:

                  @aeva and that’s why it doesn’t work for me <.<

                  I’m used to even scales 1 to 1/2/3/4 pixels etc fractional never gave me sharp fonts and I need my text to not be blurry around the edges

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                  @heals ah, so what you mean is, the fallback behavior for applications that don't support dpi scaling is ugly/frustrating/etc? that's fair

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                    @aks @redstrate but I need to put these things on cooldown right now and just focus on what works because it's driving me crazy that every wayland desktop environment in fedora is broken in some significant obvious way

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                    @aeva right, take your time. I hope you find your home in linux world. Let me know if i can help more.

                    AFAIK that wayland bug you mention is a bug between different toolkits. But I may be wrong here.

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                    • Akseli :quake_verified:​ :kde:undefined Akseli :quake_verified:​ :kde:

                      @aeva right, take your time. I hope you find your home in linux world. Let me know if i can help more.

                      AFAIK that wayland bug you mention is a bug between different toolkits. But I may be wrong here.

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                      @aeva if you have time for it, can you make a bugreport about your issue to https://bugs.kde.org at some point? So devs who can help have repro steps for it.

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                      • Akseli :quake_verified:​ :kde:undefined Akseli :quake_verified:​ :kde:

                        @aeva if you have time for it, can you make a bugreport about your issue to https://bugs.kde.org at some point? So devs who can help have repro steps for it.

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                        @aeva i can try making it too if you can give me repro steps and a summary

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                        • Akseli :quake_verified:​ :kde:undefined Akseli :quake_verified:​ :kde:

                          @aeva if you have time for it, can you make a bugreport about your issue to https://bugs.kde.org at some point? So devs who can help have repro steps for it.

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                          @aks i'll file bugs for each tonight

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                            @aks i'll file bugs for each tonight

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                            @aks it wants me to say what component is at fault and I don't know what category to pick for the cursor thing. there doesn't seem to be an i don't know option. what would you recommend?

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                              @aks it wants me to say what component is at fault and I don't know what category to pick for the cursor thing. there doesn't seem to be an i don't know option. what would you recommend?

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                              @aks oh wait there is an idk option nevermind

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                              • Akseli :quake_verified:​ :kde:undefined Akseli :quake_verified:​ :kde:

                                @aeva i can try making it too if you can give me repro steps and a summary

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                                @aks bugs filed:
                                https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510510
                                https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510513

                                thank you for the encouragement and assistance

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