Mozilla can't imagine a web without AI.
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@rysiek and now that you mentioned this other interpretation I feel like it's obviously what @canleaf meant and I have no idea why I interpreted it the other way at first, LOL.
Ironically, if we could get rid of Mozilla leadership (remove from the position of power the people currently leading Mozilla) we might get Mozilla leadership (Mozilla products leading the change in what could be) on the Web again.
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@rysiek and now that you mentioned this other interpretation I feel like it's obviously what @canleaf meant and I have no idea why I interpreted it the other way at first, LOL.
Ironically, if we could get rid of Mozilla leadership (remove from the position of power the people currently leading Mozilla) we might get Mozilla leadership (Mozilla products leading the change in what could be) on the Web again.
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Mozilla is the browser vendor equivalent of centrist political parties.
> We can do whatever the fsck we want because who you gonna vote for, the actual far-right?
> Also, we need to try to out-far-right the far-right because that's where the voters are!
And then there's the inevitable surprised pikachu face when people just don't choose them.
Either because they vote for the actual far-right, not the cheap centrist knock-off; or because they refuse to make a choice between shit and crap.
If you're wondering what brought this fire and brimstone angrythread about, it's these two separate but related things:
https://transmom.love/@elilla/115564272417922503
https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-window/
If you're wondering what the alternatives are, it's kinda grim, but my personal way forward will be:
- @librewolf for the short-to-mid term
- @servo once it matures enough to be usable (really rooting for this one!)
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If you're wondering what brought this fire and brimstone angrythread about, it's these two separate but related things:
https://transmom.love/@elilla/115564272417922503
https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-window/
If you're wondering what the alternatives are, it's kinda grim, but my personal way forward will be:
- @librewolf for the short-to-mid term
- @servo once it matures enough to be usable (really rooting for this one!)
And if you're wondering why I had not mentioned Ladybird, this is why:
https://hyperborea.org/reviews/software/ladybird-inclusivity/ -
If you're wondering what brought this fire and brimstone angrythread about, it's these two separate but related things:
https://transmom.love/@elilla/115564272417922503
https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-window/
If you're wondering what the alternatives are, it's kinda grim, but my personal way forward will be:
- @librewolf for the short-to-mid term
- @servo once it matures enough to be usable (really rooting for this one!)
I'll add to the list of “usable alternatives right now” also @Waterfox (better JPEG XL support than @librewolf IME) and @palemoon (forked “classic” XUL Firefox, so it still has e.g. built-in RSS support, but still kept standards support mostly up to date).
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Why would anyone, at this point, use Firefox over Chrome?
Diehards like me are absolutely disgusted with the AI BS Mozilla is pushing down everyone's throats, to just mention one thing. We will find a fork, or eventually hopefully a new independent browser.
Anybody else doesn't give a fsck so why would they use a cheap Chrome knock-off Mozilla made Firefox into, if they can get the real deal for free?
Well done Mozilla. You outplayed yourself.
@rysiek #Mozilla has the only #rendering engine that is not directly tied to a #GAFAM.
They are struggling to find reliable ways of financing the development of #Firefox.
AFAICS a "local first" AI is a way to lure the 95% of web users.
Losing #Firefox would be a sad new, even weighing in all those issues -
If you're wondering what brought this fire and brimstone angrythread about, it's these two separate but related things:
https://transmom.love/@elilla/115564272417922503
https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-window/
If you're wondering what the alternatives are, it's kinda grim, but my personal way forward will be:
- @librewolf for the short-to-mid term
- @servo once it matures enough to be usable (really rooting for this one!)
@rysiek @librewolf I'm also keeping my fingers crossed for good progress on the servo front.
In the meantime, I just learned that Fedora doesn't currently package librewolf, so https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_IceCat is the most available side-stepping option in Fedora-land.
A brief web search didn't give me a clear impression how those two forks compare. Maybe someone here has insights?