@Edent what's so bad about <div> ... or: Why do you want to avoid them?

[mossman@social.vivaldi.net]

@Edent I don't know if Benn Jordan has a presence on Mastodon, but I'm sure he'd have something to say on the subject. ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_F4rEaRduk

[commissarbas@toot.community]

@Edent I'm on #meshcore because that looks to be more active in my area. (Netherlands)

I sarted with 25 euro investment for a helltec v3 (3.2 iirc) and I learned a ton about wireless signals already. I am planning to build a repeater to get the network more stable and put that out on the balcony where I live.

I'm having fun but it's still very new. It feels like proper emergency comms are still with the hams, but then I need to get a license.

Highly subjective takes, all of this. 😊Learning

[alisonw@hachyderm.io]

@Edent
I put up a meshtastic node before xmas. It's currently down though while I improve the power supply. I'm in the countryside.

[kianryan@oldbytes.space]

@Edent
Well. At least the developer is aware.

[edent@mastodon.social]

@CommissarBas cheers.

[hisold@toot.io]

@Edent That always works surprisingly well on most sites. Sometimes you can't scroll anymore afterwards. Take a look if overflow: hidden was set on the body tag.

[marxjohnson@indieweb.social]

@Edent I have a Meshtastic node (Heltec v3). AIUI the difference with Meshcore is that 'tastic can be fully P2P, while 'core requires router nodes and allows more "hops". So 'tastic is best for ad-hoc setups, 'core is better for co-ordinated, semi-permanent networks. However 'tastic recently made router-router hops "free", so it can be used for both situations.

[daks@mamot.fr]

@Edent
I saw a conférence about Reticulum (at CCC IIRC) and it looked very interesting, I don't know a lot about mesh so I have no adive but I would compare it to meshmatic

[icecarrotpig@toot.io]

@Edent I prefer Meshtastic, but my local mesh switched to Meshcore. MC is not as good. It doesn't do as much. If you turn on a new node, it takes days to populated with the mesh nodes and half of them are unreliable links. I wasn't involved in the vote to switch.

Meshtastic has sensor integration and some simple stuff to get started. It's useful for IoT stuff. It quickly finds local nodes even factory fresh.

Both apps are quirky. Only one of them is open source.

[icecarrotpig@toot.io]

@mossman @Edent I loved this video. It didn't get the details right, but it captured the spirit.

[dj3ei@mastodon.radio]

#meshtastic or #meshcore - how to find out what the others around you are using?

The lazy way: Compare https://map.meshcore.dev/ (meshcore) with https://meshmap.net/ (meshtastic).

And the obvious brute force idea would probably also work: Get a device, flash one of the two, try it out for a week, flash the other, try that out for a week.

(Have not flashed my own shiny new device yet for either. Intend to start with meshcore.)

@jtonline @Edent

[cyplo@peninsula.industries]

@Edent I wanted to try meshcore but the website and github mention military and law enforcement use" in multiple places proudly, so not sure how I feel about that

[jtonline@mastodon.me.uk]

@dj3ei @Edent ah, that was interesting, I think I see a nearby node that used to be meshtastic but has now switched to meshcore, which explains why I can't see as much. It's pretty sparse round here on both.

[otfrom@functional.cafe]

@dj3ei @jtonline @Edent none near me really

[jtonline@mastodon.me.uk]

@otfrom @dj3ei @Edent maybe an all new OpenMeshenger protocol would help inspire more people near you to join?

[kawaiipunk@sunbeam.city]

@Edent this is the best talk on Meshtastic I found

https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-hacker-s-guide-to-meshtastic-off-grid-encrypted-lora-meshnets-for-cheap

Meshtastic very active in my area.

[catch56@kolektiva.social]

@rachel @Edent someone's working on a bridge https://github.com/AkitaEngineering/Akita-Meshtastic-Meshcore-Bridge

[ajroach42@retro.social]

@Edent my understanding is that meshtastic is older and possibly in more widespread use, but meshcore can probably do more?

I've used meshtastic a lot and found it to be servicible in my rural community. I am interested exploring meshcore, but chickens and eggs have to come first.

[yojimbo@masto.hackers.town]

@Edent Everyone has the fantasy of "emergency comms! I will be so cool!" but no-one is currently involved in the civil defence/emergency response world, are they? (I'm not, but I know some who are).

Unless you take it seriously enough to be a 'job', any new ad-hoc network tech looks tempting, but it's a distraction.

Enjoy it for its own sake; a $35 stick can communicate with other $35 sticks miles away, without any coordination! It's great fun 🙂

[yojimbo@masto.hackers.town]

@Edent @rachel They are both separate protocols sitting on top of "LoRa P2P"; a bit like TCP and UDP both sit on top of IP. They are good at different things - meshtastic is great at shorter range ad-hoc networks, meshcore is great for planned organised long-range networks.