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  4. Another small victory today.'nA salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now".

Another small victory today.'nA salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now".

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  • Stefano Marinelliundefined Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
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    Stefano Marinelli
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    Another small victory today.

    A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.

    I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
    The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.

    Because people need explanations, not brochures.

    #OwnYourData #OpenBSD #RunBSD

    Ospite? fedops 💙💛undefined Peteundefined Ospite? Paul Wilde :dontpanic2: :smeghead: :archlinux: :freebsd:undefined 22 Risposte Ultima Risposta
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    • Stefano Marinelliundefined Stefano Marinelli

      Another small victory today.

      A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.

      I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
      The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.

      Because people need explanations, not brochures.

      #OwnYourData #OpenBSD #RunBSD

      Ospite? Non in linea
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      Ospite
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      @stefano great job !

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      • Stefano Marinelliundefined Stefano Marinelli

        Another small victory today.

        A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.

        I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
        The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.

        Because people need explanations, not brochures.

        #OwnYourData #OpenBSD #RunBSD

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        @stefano nice! 👍 But people are actually moving from msft to google?

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        • Stefano Marinelliundefined Stefano Marinelli

          Another small victory today.

          A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.

          I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
          The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.

          Because people need explanations, not brochures.

          #OwnYourData #OpenBSD #RunBSD

          Peteundefined Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
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          Pete
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          @stefano good work!

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          • fedops 💙💛undefined fedops 💙💛

            @stefano nice! 👍 But people are actually moving from msft to google?

            Stefano Marinelliundefined Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
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            Stefano Marinelli
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            @fedops they are. I don't exactly know why, but they don't want to deal with msft anymore.

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            • Peteundefined Pete

              @stefano good work!

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              Stefano Marinelli
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              @Caffetino thank you!

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              • Ospite? Ospite

                @stefano great job !

                Stefano Marinelliundefined Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
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                Stefano Marinelli
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                @qwertz thank you!

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                • Stefano Marinelliundefined Stefano Marinelli

                  Another small victory today.

                  A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.

                  I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
                  The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.

                  Because people need explanations, not brochures.

                  #OwnYourData #OpenBSD #RunBSD

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                  Ospite
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                  #8

                  @stefano This is the direction we need to head (back) toward. Good work! 😎

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                  • Stefano Marinelliundefined Stefano Marinelli

                    Another small victory today.

                    A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.

                    I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
                    The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.

                    Because people need explanations, not brochures.

                    #OwnYourData #OpenBSD #RunBSD

                    Paul Wilde :dontpanic2: :smeghead: :archlinux: :freebsd:undefined Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
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                    @stefano with your permission, i am definitely saying "can you provide an explanation instead of this brochure?" Next time a client sends me a brochure they were sent by a sales rep for my consideration 🙄

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                    • Stefano Marinelliundefined Stefano Marinelli

                      Another small victory today.

                      A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.

                      I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
                      The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.

                      Because people need explanations, not brochures.

                      #OwnYourData #OpenBSD #RunBSD

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                      glzr
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                      @stefano i'm full of envy , did not have clients on my mail servers since the great Zimbra days . my personal server is DoveCot and Postdix although i'm afraid to give it to my clients and handle the endless problems with mails they MSFTshit is blocking. .

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                      • Stefano Marinelliundefined Stefano Marinelli

                        Another small victory today.

                        A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.

                        I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
                        The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.

                        Because people need explanations, not brochures.

                        #OwnYourData #OpenBSD #RunBSD

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                        Internet Rando
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                        @stefano Random, but sincere, kudos!

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                        • Ospite? Ospite

                          @stefano This is the direction we need to head (back) toward. Good work! 😎

                          Stefano Marinelliundefined Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
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                          Stefano Marinelli
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                          @thedarkener thanks!

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                          • Paul Wilde :dontpanic2: :smeghead: :archlinux: :freebsd:undefined Paul Wilde :dontpanic2: :smeghead: :archlinux: :freebsd:

                            @stefano with your permission, i am definitely saying "can you provide an explanation instead of this brochure?" Next time a client sends me a brochure they were sent by a sales rep for my consideration 🙄

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                            Stefano Marinelli
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                            @paul of course you can!

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                            • glzrundefined glzr

                              @stefano i'm full of envy , did not have clients on my mail servers since the great Zimbra days . my personal server is DoveCot and Postdix although i'm afraid to give it to my clients and handle the endless problems with mails they MSFTshit is blocking. .

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                              Stefano Marinelli
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                              @glzr I can understand your point...

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                              • Internet Randoundefined Internet Rando

                                @stefano Random, but sincere, kudos!

                                Stefano Marinelliundefined Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
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                                @mousey thank you!

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                                • Stefano Marinelliundefined Stefano Marinelli

                                  Another small victory today.

                                  A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.

                                  I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
                                  The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.

                                  Because people need explanations, not brochures.

                                  #OwnYourData #OpenBSD #RunBSD

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                                  @stefano Congratulations, very well done!

                                  Where you notably ahead of the sales person regarding the clients trust by way of earlier collaborations or where your arguments simply _that_ good or both? ;)

                                  It would be really interesting to know the specifics of such a real world example of a FOSS-powered E-Mail suite. Which software packages on what servers? Which software is going to be used in what fashion by the users?

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                                  • Stefano Marinelliundefined Stefano Marinelli

                                    Another small victory today.

                                    A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.

                                    I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
                                    The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.

                                    Because people need explanations, not brochures.

                                    #OwnYourData #OpenBSD #RunBSD

                                    Frank O'Dwyerundefined Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
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                                    Frank O'Dwyer
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                                    @stefano how does one do that nowadays ? I feel like it used to be possible to do that back in the day … but I thought it was well nigh impossible nowadays to avoid email going into some black hole if not on some well known service? And i am a nerd! Lol. Is there a good write up anywhere ?

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                                    • Stefano Marinelliundefined Stefano Marinelli

                                      Another small victory today.

                                      A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.

                                      I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
                                      The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.

                                      Because people need explanations, not brochures.

                                      #OwnYourData #OpenBSD #RunBSD

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                                      @stefano there is even an open source exchange-like server. Will you propose that or a more standard solution with postfix, imap etc?

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                                      • Stefano Marinelliundefined Stefano Marinelli

                                        Another small victory today.

                                        A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.

                                        I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
                                        The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.

                                        Because people need explanations, not brochures.

                                        #OwnYourData #OpenBSD #RunBSD

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                                        @stefano yeah but the flip side is managing that server and the spam blocking and all the other crap that comes with it

                                        Daniel 黄法官 CyReVolt 🐢undefined 1 Risposta Ultima Risposta
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                                        • Stefano Marinelliundefined Stefano Marinelli

                                          Another small victory today.

                                          A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.

                                          I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
                                          The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.

                                          Because people need explanations, not brochures.

                                          #OwnYourData #OpenBSD #RunBSD

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                                          @stefano ... google holds all the cards? says who lol
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