Have you heard of W Social?

[dalcacer@mas.to]

@hpod16 Actually, I wouldn’t mind.

Talking digital sovereignty without any follow up actions gets shallow.

More problematic would be the acceptance of an instance provided by the EU. There would be a lot of trust issues, so that offloading that to a third party would yield better results.

Maybe it is time to search for letters in the alphabet that aren’t taken (x , w , …)

[brennpunktua@mastodon.social]

@hpod16 personally, absolutely! Social Media is critical infrastructure, just as is ⚡ power, water, public transport and communications in general!

We need to defend European Infrastructure!

@dalcacer

[dalcacer@mas.to]

@karlos @hpod16 You’ll be baffled.

W stands for VV and that stands for verified and something else with v.

Ex eBay employee funded that network and it will be verified users only. Nothing said about the technical approach, but it will surely have either paid accounts and/or ads.

[brennpunktua@mastodon.social]

@karlos actually, DOES have (basic) algorithms ("Trending"), but they're optional, not mandatory, as opposed to big tech SM platforms. And, maybe even more importantly, they're neutral, not manipulated by some billionaire to his personal gusto!

@hpod16

[karlos@mindly.social]

@BrennpunktUA @hpod16 Yes, #Mastodon WANTS to be like Twitter with the limited character count. But writing treads of multiple toots in the #Fediverse is just nonsense.
The 500 limit is a parameter in the Mastodon server software only. I wish it would be an account setting. Or in the editor field: A small hook could extend the limit to the Fediverse limit (5000 ? none)
We could fork Mastodon 💭

[hpod16@eupolicy.social]

@karlos @BrennpunktUA what makes creating threads of multiple toots nonsense? Sorry I’m new here 😉

[karlos@mindly.social]

@hpod16 @BrennpunktUA Why should I split a long text in parts if I can sent it in one post?
As a Twitter user you may dislike a long text in your timeline. But that's a job for you App to show only some lines and an extend-symbol.

[argyle13@xarxa.cloud]

@hpod16 yes I have heard of it, but not joining because we have, for starters, several European instances of Mastodon, which is European in origin. Also, I am not showing my ID card or whatever gives my identity to use it. Not very fortunate that take.

[hpod16@eupolicy.social]

@Argyle13 I think I’d also be turned off by having to show my ID card…

[argyle13@xarxa.cloud]

@hpod16 many people said the same. It is not going to be a success I am afraid

[leanderlindahl@mastodon.social]

@hpod16 I was 😳 embarrassed to read there were a lot of Swedish people on it's board. 🇸🇪 😢

[brennpunktua@mastodon.social]

@hpod16 lol, I just tried this URL: https://stage.wsocial.eu

It simply IS Bluesky. There's only Bluesky posts there, but pretending to be an European alternative 🤡 Unfortunately, WSocial has got full media coverage today. But that actually works, does not!

[brennpunktua@mastodon.social]

@hpod16 it even says "Bluesky" on the Google Search result. They apparently forgot to clean up some meta texts in their code before launching 😅

Oh, I used lilac 💜 marker 🤣

[ekari@mementomori.social]

@hpod16

W feels like reinventing the wheel / cashgrab.

I'd like to see an "official" EU mastodon instance. That would provide a starting point for people as that seems to be the hardest part.

(On identifying myself by uploading stuff about myself to a service; a hard no. On walking to a police station to be identified and getting a box ticked as "identified", that would work.)

[hpod16@eupolicy.social]

@ekari I see!
Thanks for sharing your views.
I have to say I’m also not sure I’d want to give some random website my 🆔.
As for and official EU mastodon instance, you mean one for people(anyone) to join? Or for official institution pages and EU politicians? Cause the latter exists

[ekari@mementomori.social]

@hpod16

For everyone, because of marketing. "Go check out mastodon.eu*" works much better than "You know, there is this great mastodon-thing, go search for it, and then find an instance that suits you..."

It's too complicated 🙂

Once people are in and look around and realize what's what, then they'll (possibly) seek another instances. And they should, since multiple instances is sort of the whole point.

[* or whatnot 🤡 ]

[jetsoft@hachyderm.io]

@karlos @BrennpunktUA @hpod16 it would be useful if the filter option included a size limit. I would like to be able to fold up under a warning the occasional very long post i see. Scrolling in a phone using the Mastadon app can be a little annoying when it's a wall of text im not interested in. And i often am reading from old to new so i see the end first.

[0xtero@ohai.social]

@hpod16 I think everyone who followed Davos news has heard about this. It's ran by the same company that runs wedonthavetime.org - and this guy https://www.forbes.com/sites/ingmarrentzhog/ I think I'd rather stay with fedi than help another entrepreneur create "shareholder value", European or not.

[0xtero@ohai.social]

@ekari @hpod16 the EU already has a digital ID wallet program, which has local member state support in various ways. I don’t think I need some random new social media platform to invent it. What this W-social-thing is, beyond opportunistic headline grab, no one knows. https://ec.europa.eu/digital-building-blocks/sites/spaces/EUDIGITALIDENTITYWALLET/pages/694487738/EU+Digital+Identity+Wallet+Home

[rudi@tyrol.social]

@hpod16 @dalcacer
imho no tax money needed for the fediverse. But support is very much needed. Support by presence (like yours), by taking it serious, by publicity.
It would be a slap in the face, though, if the EU would fund projects like W with money. The linked article https://bingx.com/en/news/post/eu-backs-million-launch-of-w-to-rival-x-beta-slated-by-february to me sounds as if the EU indeed is funding it: "European Union institutions and allied policymakers are supporting a €500 million initiative to launch W"