Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

[drat@infosec.exchange]

@da_667 @GossiTheDog There's not enough press on the downstream effects this stupid shit (tm) causes for any non-giant corp including those kids trying to build home labs to learn (like mine).

[ectopod@hachyderm.io]

@GossiTheDog was it Next.js?

[etchedpixels@mastodon.social]

@GossiTheDog So you are saying there is a business opportunity following claude around projects with bug bounties 8)

[hughsie@mastodon.social]

@GossiTheDog I guess the AI security scanners will clean this up with their automated scan and CVE requests.</joke>

[badsamurai@infosec.exchange]

@da_667 I demoed that very thing recently. Prompted up a form page and visually I could see a handful of basic JavaScript issues.

Ask Claude to review the code it generated for vulns using OWASP Top 10. And it finds them.

That’s just bonkers. Sure, a lazy initial prompt so it’s all my fault, really.

@GossiTheDog

[fennix@infosec.space]

@cR0w @GossiTheDog

[draeath@infosec.exchange]

@Drat @da_667 @GossiTheDog drink enough ethanol and you'll accomplish it!

[fennix@infosec.space]

@thomasfuchs @GossiTheDog

I mean, if climate change becomes fixed eventually there won't be any more cancer, so they aren't completely wrong.

[draeath@infosec.exchange]

@badsamurai @da_667 @GossiTheDog I've seen setups that run tests and such all in a closed loop, I suppose if one really wanted to "use" this shit, they could implement that sort of thing too.

It'll cause a shedload more token use (and electrical waste) but might mitigate some of the idiocy.

[alan@mindly.social]

@cR0w @GossiTheDog Where "a sufficient number" is defined as 125% of all existing and future security practitioners, certified or not.

[draeath@infosec.exchange]

@nihkeys @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog I don't think that phrase allows for incompetency in design. The purpose is what was intended, not what actually results. There is a distinction.

[dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org]

@GossiTheDog
The real question is why does a bot have commit privileges on a "major web framework"?

i mean the answer is probably because google owns the repo probably... but why?

[draeath@infosec.exchange]

@s_bergmann @GossiTheDog I like how AIDER uses co-authors, so you can't escape from blame. All these tools should be doing similar!

[violetmadder@kolektiva.social]

@nihkeys @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog

The damage is the point.

It's a weapon.

Not sure I'd call it a "targeted" attack, when the goal is to flood absolutely EVERYTHING with shit everywhere.

[ftp_alun@infosec.exchange]

@GossiTheDog fault injection into production code at scale. Nice.

[spinnyspinlock@infosec.exchange]

@GossiTheDog I became used to checking projects I am checking out for claude (etc) in the source files and commits really fast

[ptesarik@infosec.exchange]

@etchedpixels Bug bounties? You know nothing about business…
You set up a giant scam tool, let venture capital pay for its development, then use it to hack the world and sell all of it:

• license use of the tool,
• hacking applications,
• vulnerability scanning,
• protection racket from affected companies.

That' how real capitalists do business.
The tool is called Claude.
@GossiTheDog

[tarheel@mstdn.io]

@etchedpixels @GossiTheDog

Gahhh. Takes a little effort to imagine LESS rewarding work.

[keith_lawson@mastodon.social]

@GossiTheDog This was literally the first major security mistake I made in my early days as a Perl developer and I don't imagine it's that uncommon. Claude has probably been trained with a truckload of code with these vulnerabilities.

That's okay because we run everything in single-purpose Docker containers now though, right? /s

[rachel@transitory.social]

@GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social I wonder across the industry how common is it for orgs to skip static code analysis, or other code vulnerability scans as part of their pipelines? Even then how many of those scans are actually effective?

Looks like AI is potentially an insider threat, and code generated by it has to be treated accordingly, even in the case of it being generated by project members and "reviewed"