A 10/10 repairability score doesn’t happen by accident.

[dazo@infosec.exchange]

@thor

Lenovo certainly has been one of the better ones for many years. But they have had models, including in the T series, where you basically had to replace a huge part of the laptop for a minor thing.

My X1C Gen 8 got a new motherboard because of a broken USB-C port. A T14 Gen 1 had to replace the complete top-part of the frame as the keyboard was glued to it - and to replace it, you had to unscrew basically every single component inside the laptop; everything was attached to this frame.

Also, the overall quality seems to have dropped after the T460 models. I've had one service on a T450 and a T460. But had 3 services on the X1C Gen8 and 2 services on the T14 Gen 1. Currently, a X1C Gen11 has behaved nicely and properly, but that's also the newest one. Issues typically occurs after 2-3 years of use.

That said, the T14 Gen7 and T16 Gen 5 improvements begins to look more like the good old T4xx series again, in regards to repairability. That's definitely a good step in the right direction. Now that just need to happen with the X and X1 series too.

@iFixit

[badrihippo@fosstodon.org]

@iFixit I'm kind of not buying mainstream (closed-hardware) laptops for now, but damn, if I wanted to then this would be the one I'd choose. I thought the ThinkPad line was in decline and I'm glad to hear that isn't entirely the case!

[hagbard@corteximplant.com]

@iFixit Auge @frameworkcomputer

[philip@social.simplexity.quest]

@iFixit good news about thinkpads? That‘s a welcome change.

[pt1997@floss.social]

@HarryMutt @iFixit or Shiftphone

[tock@corteximplant.com]

@OldWoofian @iFixit

[zettpunkt@mastodon.social]

@iFixit Did someone steal the trackpoint cap or what's going on in that picture?

[vp9kf@mastodon.social]

@iFixit Your 'out of 10' scale needs recalibrating because there's plenty that's not fixable in this 10 scored unit. Then there's the Lenovo crapware which counts them out completely.

[kerplunk@mastodon.scot]

@iFixit

Lenovo’s newest ThinkPads prove that laptops can be powerful, durable repairable.

My T410 2.53-GHz Intel Core i5-540M proves all that too, and still runs well with antiX Linux and ICEWM.

Sound is medocre, screen acceptable.
Had to replace the dvd drive and wireless card, fitted an SSD to improve performance. Must replace battery.

Very easy to work on.

Daughter has W520, i7

Palm rest cracked, common issue, warranty refused which really angered me.

[thor@mast.ttk.is]

@dazo @iFixit I'll agree that they have some machines that could have been done better, but their overall good over bad is in the high numbers. I have a P53s, T15g1, a couple of Thinkpad Yogas (pre-forking of the Yoga brand) and a really old m-class CPU (next step after C2D). All of them have turned out to be 💯in terms of servicability. Even the oldest one which had a effed DSP. I could mute the DSP with a stick in the 3.5mm jack and just use a USB audio card instead.

[thor@mast.ttk.is]

@dazo @iFixit in contrast, my Toshiba laptops have been atrocious - especially the high-end one (a laptop that cost me $3k, had 4K display with touch, big HDD, dedicated ATI graphics etc) - insides look like someone randomly picked parts from AliExpress and hotglued them together. Quality is on par with the cheapest you can find in Temu.

Even Apple does not come remotely close to the servicability of Thinkpads. (I was Apple tech from 2007-08, can attest for lack of quality and servicability!)

[lemgandi@mastodon.social]

@iFixit Shrug https://frame.work Got There First. And you can buy them without paying the Microsoft Tax.

[jcarax@mastodon.social]

@vp9kf @iFixit That's the problem with these scales, eventually they get maxed out. I do hope iFixit addresses that, and not by recalibrating an out of 10 scale. That throws everything going forward out of whack with past results. Better to make it out of 15, and start working up towards that.

[avrona@masto.bike]

@OldWoofian @iFixit All because you don't have a scalpel, a guitar pick, a heat gun and professional lock picking skills (or heart surgeon precision skills) laying around ?

[javensbukan@mstdn.ca]

@iFixit Buy this instead of a MacBook. K thx.

[jcarax@mastodon.social]

@badrihippo Yeah, I've been a Thinkpad going back to the last few generations of IBM. They've gone down hill over the years, but I still prefer them to HP and Dell for more minor reasons than the past. I'd decided to go Framework next time around, but this is tempting me.

[jcarax@mastodon.social]

@ljrk FWIW, Linux runs much better on my P14s than my MBA 😁

[oldwoofian@beige.party]

@avrona @iFixit precisely!

[jtskywalker@mastodon.social]

@iFixit along with the option to buy new with Linux... Lenovo is killing it!

[ljrk@todon.eu]

@jcarax I had no issues with Asahi and soon-ish there'll be even USB-C DP mode and then I'm honestly fully satisfied ^^'

But it's mostly the hardware of the MBAs that's just crazy good