It's like finding out the open source community's got black mold
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@mcc@mastodon.social @algernon@come-from.mad-scientist.club for what it's worth ibm (who is admittedly definitely a biased party here) has espoused the position that the DCO does not ban AI but if you include a Signed-off-by line on an AI-generated commit you are explicitly saying that you take personal liability if a court ends up ruling that AI output infringes copyright
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@leo @algernon Anyway IBM's position on is AI is enough to cause me to not use their linux distribution even though I think it would work on my laptop better
… I mean also their position on the GPL wrt RHEL and whether RHEL is following it. Basically my view of their lawyers right now is about the way I'd view a crowbar wedged into the community center cashbox
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@mcc@mastodon.social @algernon@come-from.mad-scientist.club for what it's worth ibm (who is admittedly definitely a biased party here) has espoused the position that the DCO does not ban AI but if you include a Signed-off-by line on an AI-generated commit you are explicitly saying that you take personal liability if a court ends up ruling that AI output infringes copyright
@mcc@mastodon.social @algernon@come-from.mad-scientist.club linux upstream explicitly allows AI contributions as of december and there have been quite a few since https://kernel.org/doc/html//next/process/coding-assistants.html
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It's like finding out the open source community's got black mold
@mcc I hate it, and I immediately knew what you meant, and I hate that too.
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It's like finding out the open source community's got black mold
@mcc I like that the mold is now visible rather than hiding under the carpets.
These people were always who they are now. And we treated them as rockstars or at least as reasonable bosses.
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@mcc Not to mention people who are very, very excited to huff black mold spores.
@xgranade@wandering.shop @mcc@mastodon.social huffers: “I got you a smoothie! It’s black mold spore, my favorite!”
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@mcc@mastodon.social @algernon@come-from.mad-scientist.club linux upstream explicitly allows AI contributions as of december and there have been quite a few since https://kernel.org/doc/html//next/process/coding-assistants.html
@leo @algernon I thought this was only for documentation, for now?
To be clear, it is my intent to eventually move entirely to software which is either no-AI by license or forked from pre-AI code. If it means I have to throw away Linux I throw away Linux. Linux is an inferior product I am *only* using because Windows added AI. Why the fuck am I using Linux if it's also AI?
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@leo @algernon I thought this was only for documentation, for now?
To be clear, it is my intent to eventually move entirely to software which is either no-AI by license or forked from pre-AI code. If it means I have to throw away Linux I throw away Linux. Linux is an inferior product I am *only* using because Windows added AI. Why the fuck am I using Linux if it's also AI?
@mcc@mastodon.social @algernon@come-from.mad-scientist.club running
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@mcc@mastodon.social @algernon@come-from.mad-scientist.club NetBSD has an explicit ban on AI code
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@mcc@mastodon.social @algernon@come-from.mad-scientist.club NetBSD has an explicit ban on AI code
@leo Thanks for this information. I cannot describe the extent of my sadness at the idea of having to use BSD, but thank you for this information.
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It's like finding out the open source community's got black mold
@mcc It's disheartening to see how many maintainers have fallen for AI. But on the other hand it's good to see that there's a decent amount of pushback as well. That gives some hope that this isn't the end. Best case scenario: We end up with a FOSS community that got rid of its problematic leaders, is more aware and critical of power dynamics and more focused on building good software instead of chasing whatever Silicon Valley is doing rn.
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@leo Thanks for this information. I cannot describe the extent of my sadness at the idea of having to use BSD, but thank you for this information.
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@mcc It's disheartening to see how many maintainers have fallen for AI. But on the other hand it's good to see that there's a decent amount of pushback as well. That gives some hope that this isn't the end. Best case scenario: We end up with a FOSS community that got rid of its problematic leaders, is more aware and critical of power dynamics and more focused on building good software instead of chasing whatever Silicon Valley is doing rn.
@lu_leipzig So far pushback seems to have had no impact on projects and I see no organized attempts to fork more than a couple scattered projects in protest of AI infection. If we want a best case scenario we have to take steps toward making it happen.
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@pinkRhododendron@mastodon.social @mcc@mastodon.social it has a modern web browser which is basically the only hard requirement to daily drive an OS
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@pinkRhododendron @leo I want this more than I want a computer.
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@pinkRhododendron @leo I want this more than I want a computer.
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@pinkRhododendron@mastodon.social @mcc@mastodon.social it has a modern web browser which is basically the only hard requirement to daily drive an OS
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@pinkRhododendron@mastodon.social @mcc@mastodon.social i mean chromeos kernels don't compile half of those drivers in and people use chromebooks fine
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It's like finding out the open source community's got black mold
@mcc It's telling that the one "big" success story in the years of slop has been computer programming, an industry where a lot of people have no professional standards and are allergic to solidarity.