Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
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@grote wow. for a second i thought this was satire, but then i clicked on the link and it's literally as you say.
why do i have a feeling this is not really about security?
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@grote it will REQUIRE biometrics? See, @fistfulofdave @wendigo @gavin57 this is what I mean. Whole world wants to put biometrics in everything. It's nonsense
@jake4480 @grote @fistfulofdave @wendigo @gavin57
No, you can use a device PIN.
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@StellaFoxxie @monapp @grote I was able to do it 10 years ago by just reading and thinking. I was only 13 at the time. Maybe today it's hard now, idk. I haven't dabbled with custom ROMs these past few years...
But one thing I do know is that the custom ROM dev's not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards, thermonuclear war, or me getting fired because the alarm app failed and that they'll laugh at me if I point my finger at them for messing up my device, lol.
@reallylazybear i've done it too. it's not really hard. it just requires at least 4 hours of work and the last time i did it i ended up with a phone that my sim card would not function in so it ended up being a complete failure :)
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@jake4480 @grote @fistfulofdave @wendigo @gavin57
No, you can use a device PIN.
@resuna @grote @fistfulofdave @wendigo @gavin57 oh good, that's a relief 😂🤣😂🤣
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@grote you're going to disable this in your custom builds anyway, right? :)
@jernej Right, but I am more worried about the unverified developer community and @fdroidorg
Who will still develop for the handful of power users going through this flow?
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I found a credit union in one quick search that allows at least some browser access ...
This is a fight, find allies. Credit unions are better than banks, many much better.
@kevinrns @utf_7 @grote
A Credit Union In the USA for anyone anywhere that's not American and not living in the USA? Are you demented?There are of course Credit Unions in Ireland. Yes, you can lodge money and get loans. They are not suitable for my use case.
The Irish An Post (State Post Office) has banking but they discontinued any access on the Web site and also required quite recent versions of Android (or iOS), several years ago. -
@reallylazybear i've done it too. it's not really hard. it just requires at least 4 hours of work and the last time i did it i ended up with a phone that my sim card would not function in so it ended up being a complete failure :)
@StellaFoxxie Well, least it ain't bootlooping or boots back to recovery. You better not point the finger at the custom ROM dev or they'll laugh at you ! Just kidding haha
Idk. I miss the "CyanogenMod era" of custom ROM's, Xposed framework, all that good stuff. Over the years I guess phone manufacturers did really make it hard to do stuff with phones. Bootloaders are locked and shit. Some phone and tablet models don't even have official custom ROMs
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@grote @thornbill …for now, until they dictate some new hoops to jump through
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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this@grote I was literally just thinking about how it frequently seems like Google does things under the guise of "security hardening" that also just happens to have the convenient side effect of further locking users into their ecosystem.
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@kevinrns @utf_7 @grote
A Credit Union In the USA for anyone anywhere that's not American and not living in the USA? Are you demented?There are of course Credit Unions in Ireland. Yes, you can lodge money and get loans. They are not suitable for my use case.
The Irish An Post (State Post Office) has banking but they discontinued any access on the Web site and also required quite recent versions of Android (or iOS), several years ago.Yes yes I am.
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@ziclaud depends on the device. My Redmi Note 11 took two attempts before I could finally unlock the bootloader, I had to wait 2 weeks because I clicked twice on the Mi Unlock tool.
You need a Xiaomi account, insert a SIM card into your phone, use that phone number for the Xiaomi account, then you can start the verification process. It's horrible, but it can be done.
@alextecplayz yeah, I did it with an older phone a few months ago to test it, a redmi note 8T, but my current redmi note 13 with HyperOS is wayy worse somehow. They say it's "bugged"...
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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with thisHonestly If this didn't have the 24 hour period I wouldn't mind much, but fuck is that going to be annoying
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@grote wow. for a second i thought this was satire, but then i clicked on the link and it's literally as you say.
why do i have a feeling this is not really about security?
@luatic @grote Come on now, this *only* makes sense as a security measure. It doesn't make sense as a way to lock down the phone totally, because then they could just... lock down the phone totally.
It absolutely makes sense as a response to the attack vector of tricking someone into installing malware by telling them to turn on developer mode, though.
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@grote Wow that is so hard.
I can feel the issue of avoiding people being tricked but with them I have some doubts.
Also why do I need to use biometrics?@chand_v_post @grote That seems to just be shorthand for "unlock your device", since that is usually done with biometrics.
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@alextecplayz yeah, I did it with an older phone a few months ago to test it, a redmi note 8T, but my current redmi note 13 with HyperOS is wayy worse somehow. They say it's "bugged"...
@ziclaud oh god HyperOS, that one is a nightmare to try and unlock compared to MIUI. My condolences.
You need a 30-day old Mi Account, the Xiaomi Community App and have a Global device. CN devices running HyperOS can't be unlocked anymore, because phone unlocking is illegal in mainland China since 2022 when the government passed a decision to outlaw it.
And with it is the "quota reached" bug that requires you to apply for unlocking at midnight Beijing time. Hell, now you have to run some Python script or whatever, from a brief look through XDA Forums.
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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this@grote What the fuck
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@Frenezul0_o @grote those chinese/european phones are just obsolete and overprized, pinephone another archeological piece at a high price.
@oatrapado
Let's be fair its a pocket tablet that can also make phone calls, and the calls are often not the primary purpose any longer
@Frenezul0_o @grote -
Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this -
Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this@grote Mum gets scammed A LOT and solely from apps in the Google Play Store. Like Facebook. Sideloaded apps is the least of our problems.
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@grote remember, kids: "sideloading" is just "installing software that isn't on the app store." the corpos are just calling it "sideloading" because it sounds shadier.
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A Candle-Powered Game Boy For Post-Apocalyptic Tetris
We’re not exactly worried about Armageddon here at Hackaday, but should we end up facing the end of the world as we know it, having something to pass the time would be nice. That’s why we were intrigued by [Janus Cycle]’s latest video where he both plays and powers a Game Boy by candlelight.
You’ve probably figured out the trick already: he’s using a Peltier module as a thermoelectric generator. Candles, after all, release a lot more energy as heat than light, and all that high-quality heat is just begging to be put to use somehow. It’s hardly a new idea; [Janus] references space-age radioisotope thermoelectric generators (RTGs) in the video, but back in the day the Soviets had a thermoelectric collar that fit around a kerosene lantern to power their tube radios.
In [Janus]’s case, he’s using a commercial module sandwiched between two heatsinks with the rather-questionable choice of a cardboard box reinforced with wooden skewers to hold it over the candle. Sure, as long as the flame doesn’t touch the cardboard, it should be fine, but you will not be at all surprised to see the contraption catch fire in the video’s intro. For all that, he doesn’t get enough power for the Game Boy — one module gets him only 2 V with tea light, but he has a second module and a second candle.
Doubling the energy more than doubles the fun, since a working Game Boy is way more than twice as fun as an un-powered one. But one candle should be more than enough power, so [Janus] goes back and optimizes his single-Peltier setup with a tall candle and actual thermal grease, and gets the Game Boy going again. Any fire marshals in the audience should look away, though, as he never gives up on keeping a candle in a cardboard box.
The “power something with a Peltier module” project is probably a right of passage for electronics enthusiasts, but most are more likely to play with the irony of candle-powered LEDs, or fans to cool the cold-side heatsink. We did see a phone charger one time, and that didn’t even involve open flames, which seems much safer than this. Remember — no matter how much you want to game after the end of the world, it’s not worth burning down your fallout shelter.
