Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
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@grote wow. for a second i thought this was satire, but then i clicked on the link and it's literally as you say.
why do i have a feeling this is not really about security?
@luatic @grote Come on now, this *only* makes sense as a security measure. It doesn't make sense as a way to lock down the phone totally, because then they could just... lock down the phone totally.
It absolutely makes sense as a response to the attack vector of tricking someone into installing malware by telling them to turn on developer mode, though.
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@grote Wow that is so hard.
I can feel the issue of avoiding people being tricked but with them I have some doubts.
Also why do I need to use biometrics?@chand_v_post @grote That seems to just be shorthand for "unlock your device", since that is usually done with biometrics.
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@alextecplayz yeah, I did it with an older phone a few months ago to test it, a redmi note 8T, but my current redmi note 13 with HyperOS is wayy worse somehow. They say it's "bugged"...
@ziclaud oh god HyperOS, that one is a nightmare to try and unlock compared to MIUI. My condolences.
You need a 30-day old Mi Account, the Xiaomi Community App and have a Global device. CN devices running HyperOS can't be unlocked anymore, because phone unlocking is illegal in mainland China since 2022 when the government passed a decision to outlaw it.
And with it is the "quota reached" bug that requires you to apply for unlocking at midnight Beijing time. Hell, now you have to run some Python script or whatever, from a brief look through XDA Forums.
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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this@grote What the fuck
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@Frenezul0_o @grote those chinese/european phones are just obsolete and overprized, pinephone another archeological piece at a high price.
@oatrapado
Let's be fair its a pocket tablet that can also make phone calls, and the calls are often not the primary purpose any longer
@Frenezul0_o @grote -
Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this -
Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this@grote Mum gets scammed A LOT and solely from apps in the Google Play Store. Like Facebook. Sideloaded apps is the least of our problems.
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@grote remember, kids: "sideloading" is just "installing software that isn't on the app store." the corpos are just calling it "sideloading" because it sounds shadier.
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@nobody @agowa338 @grote hah its the thing i said https://tech.lgbt/@Li/116257681293741665
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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this@grote how will integrate any non-android enterprise mdm base? Direct push apk it is a must.
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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this@grote aaaaaaa ,, this type of flow would be great for something that's extremely frequently abused by scammers and is only rarely used legitimately, but sideloading apps is way too common and useful for this type of flow to be justifiable for any stated reason they have (and of course, we all know what the real reason is)
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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this@grote I hate phones!
Somebody make a one newer than 2018 that is compatible with #postmarketos please!!!!
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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this -
Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this@grote what a fucking joke.
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@hellomiakoda @lumi @grote furiphone looking mighty good more and more
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@tedmielczarek @grote No, it was a real job I had at a real company. I just wondered whether people would still be able to do that.
@TimWardCam @tedmielczarek @grote Looks to me like you'd disable this silly stuff on all the phones you manage and call it good...you're just back to the situation as it exists.
The real pain here is that people install fdroid from the play store thinking they can then install apps but they won't be able to without "disabling security". Other than that it seems like it's a one time annoyance -- less than if you just load lineage or something to begin with.
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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this@grote Eh, not a fan of giving Google biometrics. The 1 day wait is kinda -- petty, but OK -- the rest I sorta expected.
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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this -
Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with thisI suspect they'll find there's actually quite a few that will put up with this, after all the average Android user only installs from the Play Store, those that are using F-Droid or side loading are actively choosing to avoid Google, and I don't think this'll be much of a barrier to them, I know I'll jump through these hoops without batting an eye.